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By aitraaz
#208428
Keep in mind the D-lux is a compact digital, no sense comparing it to the higher line of cameras. Agree with oracio, the brand and 'style' have alot to do with Leica...
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By Leonardo
#208446
Nikon & Canon are both great brands with great product,s the main difference is the way the settings are, so if you have any experience with one or the other, maybe better the keep the same brand
+1

I have own a lot of cameras,

S-2 pro
D-100
D-70
20-D

They are all great cameras... however, Cannon seems to come up with new products with more MP at a lower prices than Nikon... that is why I end up buying a cannon...
The S-2 pro (is from Fuji and it's base on Nikon bodies... that thing is amazing! my first and most favorite camera :D ) I think now they have the S-3 pro and the S-5 pro :shock:
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you can see some pics here:
http://www.tereschubert.com
and here
http://www.tereschubert.com/art/


leo
By oracio
#208457
Nice renders :wink:
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By Hervé
#208537
Nice reviews...

I went to the store yesterday... I have to say I really like the Canon 30D... pretty cool... 8,2 mp.. 17-85 mm lens... for about 1,600 euros.. :D

Thanks for helping..

Leo, nicey pictures.. :wink: so Finally you have a Canon..? which one..?

I'd love the new 5D... but too $$$ for me.. :roll:
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By Hervé
#208717
Finaly bought the Nikon 200D yesterday... what a piece..
(with a 18-70 mm lens)

Thanks all !! :wink:
By oracio
#208727
Good choice!
Congrats!
Last edited by oracio on Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By Hervé
#208728
Thanks Oracio... I will post some pictures... :wink:
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By Hervé
#208754
well, I dunno, but so far I get better pictures with my old sony.. quality color is good, but just not as sharp.. :roll: any idea..?
By mrcharles
#208757
So... you went with Nikon...

Re. your question on sharpness... comparing to another camera is challenging... be sure that you equalize conditions as much as possible... many digital cameras apply sharpening in-camera (check your camera default settings and turn it off if it is on)... be sure that you compare at the same focal length and f stop (choose a mid-range f stop such as f5.6)... also choose the same ISO (100 or 200)... lock the cameras on a tripod and manually focus on your target... compare identically processed .raw format pictures if possible...

Watch out for lens flare... I was very disappointed with Nikon wide-angle glass... flare was a real problem and the lens hood did nothing to improve the problem.

Good luck... (I still think that you would be happier with the Canon...)
By mtripoli
#208759
I used to have an Olmpus (ok, don't laugh - it was ok)... then the Nikon now a Canon 350D. I love it! The new Rebel XTi is a beautiful camera for the price... I've recommended it to three people and they love it. Canon started the whole DSLR biz and as far as I see still leads the pack... of course I'm talking about in a certain price range... some day... some day... the EOS-1Ds Mark II! Though the DIGIC III processor is out...

Look in the photo mags... you can rent just about anything... rent a couple and make up your mind that way...

Hey! While on the topic; check out Adobe Lightroom (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom/)... A marvelous program.

Also look at Photomatix (http://www.hdrsoft.com/)... I've played with this and had some great results... just haven't bought it yet... :cry:

Good luck!
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By Leonardo
#208763
Most pros that I know... rather than turning their in-camera sharpering off, and use photoshop..... Something to think about :D
Last edited by Leonardo on Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By Hervé
#208767
ok, I'll see what I can do.. when zooming in the sony (an old 707) picture, I discovered some black points, but from 100% view nothing, AND a sharp neat image..

Now on for the Nikon... I am scared... I went to the nikon site... and the picture on their site is not that good either... incredible...
http://www.nikon-euro.com/D200/latin/ma ... country=FR


well.. pretty disapointed... I wonder what the pro users are saying... hard to know, unless browsing these neverending forum.. for a week...

I am going to e-mail directly to Nikon.. saying wtf... hehe

well Leo... why not..

Thanks
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By Mihai
#208783
It may be just the lens that's not so good. The kit lens that come with the Canon 350D is pretty bad as well, if you would judge the body based on that lens you would be pretty disappointed. You have to try it with a more expensive lens, and usually a fixed focal length lens ("prime lens") has better sharpness than a zoom lens.

But first make some more thorough tests, to make sure it was simply not an autofocus error, or a shutterspeed that was too slow, causing the blur.

Last thing, the consumer level point and shoot cameras usually have defaults which artificially increase contrast in the picture and so may give the impression that they are sharper (exactly like the Unsharp Mask filter does in PS), so it's better if you make tests with a chart.

Here is a simple test you can make to see if the lens focuses properly:

http://www.canon-dslr.com/Canon_Jan05/C ... s_Test.htm

(test chart for printing: http://www.canon-dslr.com/Canon_Jan05/F ... target.pdf)
By ricardo
#208789
Mihai wrote:It may be just the lens that's not so good. The kit lens that come with the Canon 350D is pretty bad as well, if you would judge the body based on that lens you would be pretty disappointed. You have to try it with a more expensive lens, and usually a fixed focal length lens ("prime lens") has better sharpness than a zoom lens.

But first make some more thorough tests, to make sure it was simply not an autofocus error, or a shutter speed that was too slow, causing the blur.

Last thing, the consumer level point and shoot cameras usually have defaults which artificially increase contrast in the picture and so may give the impression that they are sharper (exactly like the Unsharp Mask filter does in PS), so it's better if you make tests with a chart.

Here is a simple test you can make to see if the lens focuses properly:

http://www.canon-dslr.com/Canon_Jan05/C ... s_Test.htm

(test chart for printing: http://www.canon-dslr.com/Canon_Jan05/F ... target.pdf)
I have a D70s and have this with studio like setups. Just forget about auto-focus when in studio if that's the case. I must add I olny have crappy lenses.

Another hint I learned from maya69 - convert the picture to LAB and sharpen only the lightness channel. You can apply really heavy sharpening without pulling up too many artifacts.

Outdoors & portrait it is great, really sharp with nice colors and contrast. And the battery lasts forever.

Ricardo
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