[andrebaros]

http://www.chrisjordan.com/current_set2 ... XXX_09NNN/

Great work on many levels.

[superbad]

That's really cool.

[patrikpanda]

.really like it a lot.
.patrik.

[misterasset]

How did they do that?

[jeffg]

A little politically biased in their choice of numbers perhaps?

[ivox3]

How did they do that?

Offset filter ?

[andrebaros]

The difference between art and a good texture is a political choice of numbers.

[misterasset]

I don't see the "political"ness of the numbers.

[ivox3]

......check your math.

[big K]

A little politically biased in their choice of numbers perhaps?

maybe some people doing art have a message ?

michael

[misterasset]

I'm seriously curious how these are seen as "politically biased." I mean, they're facts.

[dilbert]

I'm seriously curious how these are seen as "politically biased." I mean, they're facts.

I think what jeffg is saying is that simple numbers/statistics do not mean anything out of context. Take the 2.3 million Americans incarcerated "fact" that the artist obviously is angry about. What's his point? Is he saying that there are too many people incarcerated? If so, what does he base that fact on? I used to work in law enforcement, and I can tell you for a "fact" that it is extremely hard to get somebody convicted of anything, and I can't tell you how many violent criminals I've seen go free due to the criminal justice system favoring the criminal. So when I look at that image, I say to myself, it should probably be 4 million incarcerated, but the other 1.7 million got away with their crimes.

The images are very well executed, but I personally don't see enough artistic appeal to be shown in a gallery. Anyone with Photoshop could do it, and the political message is nothing new, so there's no attraction for me.

[mashium123]

A little politically biased in their choice of numbers perhaps?

Not perhaps but for sure.
Your question(?) sounds as if there was an alternative for human beings?

[misterasset]

If so, what does he base that fact on?

Probably on the fact that the US incacerates people at higher rates than any other country in the world; 15 times higher than Japan for that matter.

Is the solution to build more prisons so we can house everybody and teach them a lesson? Probably not because people don't want to pay the taxes for new prisons, live near new ones that get built, and mandatory minimum sentencing means lots of these people lose their whole life to rehabilitation.

Is the solution to change something about our society that is so fundamentally ingraned that we can't even tell what it is? Probably not that either, because again, why do we have higher crime than everybody else.

I think it's okay to try to draw attention to a problem without having the answers yourself in the hope that other people who care the same and have more knowledge of the issue would spring to the cause. Whatever the reason I think we can all agree that we shouldn't have to have 2.3 million people in prison.

[dilbert]

Probably on the fact that the US incacerates people at higher rates than any other country in the world; 15 times higher than Japan for that matter.

Whatever the reason I think we can all agree that we shouldn't have to have 2.3 million people in prison.

Yes, and countries like China have a low incarceration rate (by percentage) due to the fact that their justice system is swift, and deadly, but are you going to argue that we should change to their justice system so that our "numbers" look better? Like I said, statistics mean nothing out of context of the situation.

The number of people in prison is irrelevant. You go to prison when you commit a crime. It is VERY hard to be convicted of anything in the USA, I know, as I have testified on the stand many times to try to put the criminals I caught in prison. Crime rates are high in Western countries in general, as the criminals know that the likelihood of conviction is low, and the sentence that goes with a conviction does not usually fit the crime, so they are willing to take the risk of being caught. As an example (and I'm not advocating this punishment), if we took on the punishment of other countries, and cut off the hand of a thief, I can ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE that the number of thefts in the USA would drop dramatically. All of a sudden, our "numbers" look better, but at what cost?