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By glebe digital
#164314
As an aside, I also took a stab at the glass iors.............nice 'signs of life' but rendertime seems heavy.............but anyway, back to the metals......
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By glebe digital
#164379
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9 & 18 carat in the centre, nickel-silver & stainless steel pairs on either side.
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By hdesbois
#164380
Nice experiments going on. I'd like to see some coloured glass, but I haven't still figured out how to get a correct ior file. It seems that some glass manufacturers do have some data (they have the measuring tools for sure) but I'm not sure they would release it to the public.
BTW, is there anybody around who could have a look at the data coming with the freesnell program?
Here is the data for iron:
eV n k R(th=0) ; Iron

0.50 4.14 8.02 0.817
0.60 3.93 6.95 0.783
0.70 3.78 6.17 0.752
0.80 3.65 5.60 0.725
0.90 3.52 5.16 0.700
1.00 3.43 4.79 0.678
1.10 3.33 4.52 0.660
1.20 3.24 4.26 0.641
1.30 3.16 4.07 0.626
1.40 3.12 3.87 0.609
1.50 3.05 3.77 0.601
1.60 3.00 3.60 0.585
1.70 2.98 3.52 0.577
1.80 2.92 3.46 0.573
1.90 2.89 3.37 0.563
2.00 2.85 3.36 0.563
2.10 2.80 3.34 0.562
2.20 2.74 3.33 0.563
2.30 2.65 3.34 0.567
2.40 2.56 3.31 0.567
2.50 2.46 3.31 0.570
2.60 2.34 3.30 0.576
2.70 2.23 3.25 0.575
2.80 2.12 3.23 0.580
2.90 2.01 3.17 0.580
3.00 1.88 3.12 0.583
3.10 1.78 3.04 0.580
3.20 1.70 2.96 0.576
3.30 1.62 2.87 0.572
3.40 1.55 2.79 0.565
3.50 1.50 2.70 0.556
3.60 1.47 2.63 0.548
3.70 1.43 2.56 0.542
3.83 1.38 2.49 0.534
4.00 1.30 2.39 0.527
4.17 1.26 2.27 0.510
4.33 1.23 2.18 0.494
4.50 1.20 2.10 0.482
4.67 1.16 2.02 0.470
4.83 1.14 1.93 0.451
5.00 1.14 1.87 0.435
5.17 1.12 1.81 0.425
5.33 1.11 1.75 0.408
5.50 1.09 1.17 0.401
5.67 1.09 1.65 0.383
5.83 1.10 1.61 0.373
6.00 1.09 1.59 0.366
6.17 1.08 1.57 0.365
6.33 1.04 1.55 0.365
6.50 1.02 1.51 0.358
6.67 1.00 1.47 0.351
6.83 0.97 1.43 0.346
7.00 0.96 1.39 0.333
7.17 0.94 1.35 0.327
7.33 0.94 1.30 0.311
7.50 0.94 1.26 0.298

As you can see, it's almost usable, but it would require some interpolation between 3.7 and 7.5 eV, so we can have regular 0.1 eV increments (we don't need the last column).
With freesnell, you have a few other materials that are not in the SOPRA database, most notably two datasets for zinc.
HD
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By glebe digital
#164390
hdesbois wrote:Nice experiments going on. I'd like to see some coloured glass, but I haven't still figured out how to get a correct ior file. It seems that some glass manufacturers do have some data (they have the measuring tools for sure) but I'm not sure they would release it to the public..
HD
I need to test those glass ior's too........colouration could just be an added bsdf for pigment? Need to try that after I've compiled my default metal alloys. BTW, anyone know of some good reading material re: anisotropy and it's relation to compounds?
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By hdesbois
#164401
Interpolation done :
fe.ior
1 1.4 8 66
3.12 3.87
3.05 3.77
3 3.6
2.98 3.52
2.92 3.46
2.89 3.37
2.85 3.36
2.8 3.34
2.74 3.33
2.65 3.34
2.56 3.31
2.46 3.31
2.34 3.3
2.23 3.25
2.12 3.23
2.01 3.17
1.88 3.12
1.78 3.04
1.7 2.96
1.62 2.87
1.55 2.79
1.5 2.7
1.47 2.63
1.43 2.56
1.392 2.506
1.346 2.451
1.3 2.39
1.274 2.319
1.254 2.252
1.235 2.196
1.218 2.146
1.2 2.1
1.176 2.055
1.155 2.003
1.142 1.945
1.14 1.903
1.14 1.87
1.129 1.836
1.118 1.799
1.112 1.761
1.101 1.727
1.09 1.697
1.088 1.669
1.092 1.642
1.099 1.616
1.097 1.6
1.09 1.59
1.086 1.578
1.074 1.567
1.047 1.555
1.03 1.535
1.02 1.51
1.009 1.486
0.9948 1.463
0.9744 1.438
0.9649 1.413
0.96 1.39
0.9474 1.368
0.9388 1.341
0.9397 1.309
0.94 1.282
0.94 1.26
0.94 1.241
0.94 1.226
0.94 1.214
0.94 1.199
0.94 1.18

Rendering now !
HD
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By hdesbois
#164411
found a software named "findgraph".
http://www.findgraph.com/
Easy to use and offers many interpolation methods. Now, I have the trial version, but licence is just under 50$. So, I might buy it if this ior saga goes on.
HD
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By glebe digital
#164420
So, can I take those numbers and create a new ior file then?

Trying to cover the most common alloys first, so from the left; Cu-Al : Cu-Sn : Cu-Zn : Al-Cu-Mg [duraluminium] : Ferrochrome : StainlessSteel.

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And from the left, Cu-Ni : ferrochrome : molybdenum steel : 24crtGold : pewter : SS
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Last edited by glebe digital on Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
By descry
#164462
hi all :)

DrMerman-Eric Lagman thanks :oops:

@glebe digital: only normal map in the bump channel


another test

handle : Stilo -Olivari-

stainless steel AISI 316 L

carbam.ior
weight 0.03
sio.ior
weight 1
magnesium fluoride.ior
weight 2
cr.ior
weight 18.5
ni.ior
weight 13
molybdenum.ior
weight 2.5
iron silicide 1.ior
weight 62.97

all roughness 15,00
normal map in bump channel 0,350

ciao

http://www.webalice.it/descry/rendering ... aStilo.jpg
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By hdesbois
#164520
glebe digital wrote:So, can I take those numbers and create a new ior file then?
Right, just copy/paste the numbers into notepad and save it as fe.ior or iron.ior with the other ior files.

HD
By Toxie
#164526
Hi guys a just read this thread and finding myself quiet lost...I dont know that much of phisics or quimics and im wondering how did u get to this conclussion of getting stainless steel material using these differents complex ior?
Is that based of the materials than compound the stainless steel?

Example:Fe/Cr18/Ni10???

Cheers
By giacob
#164531
and that would be the answer to the request for an idiot guide to metals?...
... one would need a degree in science of materials to understand fully it :wink:
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By Tyrone Marshall
#164532
descry wrote:hi all :)

DrMerman-Eric Lagman thanks :oops:

@glebe digital: only normal map in the bump channel


another test

handle : Stilo -Olivari-

stainless steel AISI 316 L

carbam.ior
weight 0.03
sio.ior
weight 1
magnesium fluoride.ior
weight 2
cr.ior
weight 18.5
ni.ior
weight 13
molybdenum.ior
weight 2.5
iron silicide 1.ior
weight 62.97

all roughness 15,00
normal map in bump channel 0,350

ciao

http://www.webalice.it/descry/rendering ... aStilo.jpg
Beautiful!

With your permission, this goes in the upcoming Advanced IOR MasterClass!
By descry
#164699
thanks :)

@Tyrone Marshall: sure :D

ciao
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