[thinkbuild]

Dear Maxwell/SU community:

I would so dearly love to get Maxwell to work. Instead, I only get bad crashes every time. If anyone could help - advise, how to get it to work, I would be very pleased.

Here is the situation:

- MacOSX, Powebook G4/1.67Mhz/1.5MB ram, Tiger, SU5, Maxwell (newest) - good install, no license problems.
- Simple file = crash on export
- my "environment.plist" file reads as so:

[jasper:~] jason% cd .MacOSX
[jasper:~/.MacOSX] jason% ls
environment.plist
[jasper:~/.MacOSX] jason% more environment.plist

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>QDTEXT_ANTIALIASING</key>
<string>1</string>
<key>QDTEXT_MINSIZE</key>
<string>12</string>
</dict>
</plist>
[jasper:~/.MacOSX] jason%

I assume this is correct - non?

Here is the logfile I get when trying to export:

Exporting: /Users/jason/Desktop/tomato-1.mxs.log
Maxwell: Method setPhysicalSky, Error: Maxwell not initialized
Maxwell: Method createCameras, Error: Maxwell not initialized
Maxwell: Method Camera export, Error: createCameras

I would very much appreciate it if someone here would post a simple SU5 file that is known to work. This would allow me to test my installation - What am I doing wrong? It is honestly so frustrating ... So close!

Also - small request to Next - how about allowing us to post small files here? I would put up my "test file"

Thanks very much for any/all help from you out there...

ciao -

Jason


PS
More info - here is the Crash Report (via apple system) I always get:

Date/Time: 2005-09-26 22:19:51.819 +0200
OS Version: 10.4.2 (Build 8C46)
Report Version: 3

Command: SketchUp
Path: /Applications/SketchUp 5/SketchUp 5.app/Contents/MacOS/SketchUp
Parent: WindowServer [72]

Version: SketchUp 5 (5.0)

PID: 592
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0xfc2009c4

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.atlast.sketchup.skptomxs 0x08bc490c Cobject::Ccamera::lookAt(Cvector&, Cvector&, Cvector) + 44 (bundle1.s:283)
1 com.atlast.sketchup.skptomxs 0x08bc167c Cscene::setCamera(unsigned, Cvector&, Cvector&, Cvector&, double, double, unsigned char) + 268 (bundle1.s:283)
2 com.atlast.sketchup.skptomxs 0x08ba7440 Cmaxwell::setCamera(unsigned, Cvector, Cvector, Cvector, double, double, unsigned char) + 160 (bundle1.s:283)
3 com.atlast.sketchup.skptomxs 0x08b9a9a0 CMXSExporterSkp::WriteSkpCamera(ISkpCamera*) + 1480 (bundle1.s:283)
4 com.atlast.sketchup.skptomxs 0x08b9533c CMXSExporterSkp::WriteMaxwellCamera() + 1648 (bundle1.s:283)
5 com.atlast.sketchup.skptomxs 0x08b964fc CMXSExporterSkp::WriteModel() + 152 (bundle1.s:283)
6 com.atlast.sketchup.skptomxs 0x08b9b824 CMXSExporterSkp::ExportTo(__CFString const*, IProgressCB*) + 276 (bundle1.s:283)
7 com.atlast.sketchup.skptomxs 0x08b90bbc -[SkpToMXSPlugin export:to:usingFormat:optionsSet:callback:] + 304 (bundle1.s:283)
8 com.AtLast.SketchUp 0x00256544 0x1000 + 2446660
9 com.apple.Foundation 0x9288d998 __NSFireDelayedPerform + 304
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9075ed10 __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 184
11 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9074b688 __CFRunLoopRun + 1680
12 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9074ac3c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
13 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93129ac0 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 264
14 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x931290cc ReceiveNextEventCommon + 244
15 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93128fc0 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 96
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x93603e44 _DPSNextEvent + 384
17 com.apple.AppKit 0x93603b08 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 116
18 com.apple.AppKit 0x9360006c -[NSApplication run] + 472
19 com.apple.AppKit 0x936f08bc NSApplicationMain + 452
20 com.AtLast.SketchUp 0x00002650 0x1000 + 5712
21 dyld 0x8fe01048 _dyld_start + 60

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9004ca38 syscall_thread_switch + 8
1 com.apple.Foundation 0x9289b330 +[NSThread sleepUntilDate:] + 152
2 com.apple.AppKit 0x936a0b00 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 1100
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x92882f34 forkThreadForFunction + 108
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002c3b4 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002f66c kevent + 12
1 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92792ad8 TFSNotificationTask::FSNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 56
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90b39690 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 76
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002c3b4 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002ca78 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9003125c pthread_cond_wait + 508
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90b39880 MPWaitOnQueue + 224
3 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92793330 TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 108
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90b39690 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 76
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002c3b4 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
srr0: 0x0000000008bc490c srr1: 0x000000000000f030 vrsave: 0x0000000000000000
cr: 0x24028488 xer: 0x0000000000000004 lr: 0x0000000008bc167c ctr: 0x0000000090153d00
r0: 0x00000000bfd22216 r1: 0x00000000bfffdad0 r2: 0x0000000008bc167c r3: 0x00000000fc2009b8
r4: 0x00000000bfffdc70 r5: 0x00000000bfffdc88 r6: 0x00000000bfd22216 r7: 0x00000000593f7402
r8: 0x000000003fedbf4e r9: 0x000000004418b1bc r10: 0x00000000bfce2bfa r11: 0x0000000040729b62
r12: 0x0000000071f8e33b r13: 0x0000000000000000 r14: 0x0000000000000001 r15: 0x0000000000000000
r16: 0x0000000000000000 r17: 0x0000000000000000 r18: 0x0000000000000000 r19: 0x0000000000000000
r20: 0x0000000000000000 r21: 0x0000000000000000 r22: 0x0000000000676308 r23: 0x0000000008dfc660
r24: 0x0000000000000002 r25: 0x00000000000001a0 r26: 0x00000000bfffdc70 r27: 0x00000000bfffdca0
r28: 0x000000003a71e1de r29: 0x00000000406b7ad6 r30: 0x00000000bfffdc88 r31: 0x00000000fc2009b8

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[Jake256]

Jason,

Look here. Two threads down from yours.

http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6718

[thinkbuild]

Dear Jake & Co.

As far as I can tell, this other thread is not the problem -
As I understand it, an environment.plist issue should not appear as I am using the "new" installer. But, I am not sure.

Do you think you could post your own personal environment.plist file? Then I could compare it with mine...

hope all is well, and again, thanks for your help,

Jason

[Jake256]

Dear Jake & Co.

As far as I can tell, this other thread is not the problem -
As I understand it, an environment.plist issue should not appear as I am using the "new" installer. But, I am not sure.

Do you think you could post your own personal environment.plist file? Then I could compare it with mine...

hope all is well, and again, thanks for your help,

Jason

I thought you had it up and running. I'm still pretty sure it's an installation problem. It's not finding Maxwell, or the correct version on Maxwell. Did you try reinstalling?

[pelias]

I've mentioned it in other thread but I will repeat it here:

If export crashes and you get following report in the log file:

Exporting: /Users/jason/Desktop/tomato-1.mxs.log
Maxwell: Method setPhysicalSky, Error: Maxwell not initialized
Maxwell: Method createCameras, Error: Maxwell not initialized
Maxwell: Method Camera export, Error: createCameras

it means that you do not have Maxwell engine installed properly on your machine. The best test for the installation is to locate rbg.mxs file (sample file included with Maxwell engine) and double click on it - that will render the file in Maxwell. If that works MaxwellExport for SketchUp will work as well (you should see 3 cubes in red,green,blue in the Maxwell image when rendering the file). If the Maxwell rendering doesn't work than you should re-read the installation instructions.

Pavol

[thinkbuild]

Dear Pavol -

Thanks for your attention to the matter. I was able to locate and double-click the "rgb" test file and it is now rendering, showing three nice boxes as you describe. It is resolving nicely athough slow as all describe. (If you send along an email, I would be happy to mail a screen shot...)

So, I think the problem is likely either with my own SketchUp installation (?) or perhaps between my specific SketchUP and the plugin - as it seems the engine is working, what are the other possibilities? I was thinking to re-download and install the plugin as well as to re-install SU itself; perhaps this will work. However, before I take this path, do you see anything in my (system) console which might indicate the source of my problems?

FYI, Jake256 has just sent me an .mxs file which also seems to work fine. So, I firmly believe that my render engine is fine, that there is no licence or environment problem; it must be somewhere else.

Again, thanks for your time.


Jason
...in berlin...

[thinkbuild]

Dear All -

For the record, I got it to work and discovered what was it seems a known "bug" if you will call it that. It seems that the problem had to do with a non-expected location for the application - not only must the environment.plist file be in the right place, it must (of course) point to the current location of Maxwell.app . I had moved the app (I still organize my Application folder...) and the plugin could not find it. So, in fact it was an "installation" issue; though the suggested test (to run rgb.mxs) did not indicate this.

Thus, the suggestion for future people with this problem: for now, don't move the app anywhere! And yes, check the environment.plist file:

(quoted from Pavol):

"the solution (as far as I can tell) is to update the environment.plist if you've moved the Maxwell application bundle.
You will need to edit the environment.plist file to take into account a new location. Typically if you had:
<string>Applications/maxwell.app/Contents/MacOS</string>
you will need to change it to (assuming you've moved to render folder):
<string>Applications/render/maxwell.app/Contents/MacOS</string>

That should help.

NextLimit developers are aware of the installation problem - they've promised a new version of SDK which should simplify the process and make it more stable. As soon as I have the new version of SDK I will follow up with a new version of MaxwellExport for SketchUp plugin.

Hope this helps.

Pavol"

Although, in my experience, this did not work (!) - logic would suggest it could.

At the moment, I still have a problem in that I can't get the command line system to run. This could be because of my own lack of knowledge but I still believe there is a missing link somewhere...

good luck to all,

Jason

[pelias]

The good news here is that Maxwell developers did listen to complaints about the installation issues - I have received the new SDK build and I am working on the integration. I plan to have a new OSX build for you in 1-2 days. The need to create environment.plist should be lifted...

Pavol

[thinkbuild]

Dear Pavol, Dear SDK masters,

This is indeed great news. I think the engine should be a more painless install, and I appreciate that you have heard and reacted to the critique. Bravo!

Now, I think the next step is to work on the elegance of the set-up. In my opinion, DOF still is very "iffy" - I have not gotten it to work, and also the general handling (interface) of the SU plugin is fairly difficult, with important features buried within menus-inside-menus. This has been exhaustively handled in other threads, but I sincerely hope that Pavol will be given the time/resources to devote to making the plugin-in system for SketchUP as elegant and intuitive as SketchUP itself. This would be real magic.

Best to all,

Jason
www.thinkbuild.com