[tom]

That is impressive. Tom, would you mind sharing the test image?, I would like to compare photoshop versus pixelmator here on my mac. Or maybe if you say me what the resolution of your image is, I could test with one of mine.

It was nothing big, only 1024 x 768. In fact the brush size matters more It would be great if Pixelmator has CMYK support.

i'll look into pixel. the program looks promising! but it hasn't been updated since 2007??? or is this just the beta?

Yes, because pixel is a one man show; Pavel codes alone. For a long time he couldn't find enough support to keep the project alive and improve. But, now he says we'll soon have betas and in the near future a 1.0. Read the news section on the site.

Just did a quick test:
Seems that Corel Paints smear brush is just as fast as Pixels... (used a 3600/2600px image).

Yes, I like Corel's PhotoPaint, too. It really has everything primary that PS has including CMYK and Lab while it's a 30 MB of Corel's 290 MB comlete suite. Besides my comparison video was showing CS3. You can't imagine how slower CS4 has became today.

Besides I can't stop reminding these 2 major issues CS4 still has:
http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/view ... 616#271616
http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/view ... 888#282888

[jespi]

I thought that Pixelmator has CYMK support, that is a must to me too, meaning that, Pixelmator out!
I will wait to the release of Pixel and see what happens.

Thanks for the info Tom!

[jespi]

Anyone has tested Photoline www.pl32.com ? seems a nice alternative to Photoshop.

[tom]

It looks promising except 32 bit editing and poor color management. Thanks for the link!

[jespi]

Yeah ! It looks promising! I'm testing it right now and so far I'm really surprised, and is 64 bit!.
Here an interesting review about the pros&cont about photopixel http://loewald.com/blog/?p=733

And its launch in less than a second!

José

[raja]

Maybe someone finds this interesting- Xara: http://www.xara.com/us/products/xtreme/
never tried it though, always had Adobe at work.

[jespi]

........poor color management........

What do you miss about color management within photoline, Tom? maybe the proof set up?. I still need to invistigate way more, but looks a nice alternative.

José

[tom]

Basically, I can't see all the profiles available under my system. Nearly none of them...

[jespi]

Hi Tom, I can see the same ICCs as in photoshop, see image below showing my ICCs for CYMK.

[tom]

I found it's about 64 bit. Now, when I launch 32 bit version, it works. Cool!
Although, I cannot make it keep rendering intent as "Relative Colorimetric"
Also, color rendering engine is not producing same results with Adobe (ACE)...

[jespi]

I found it's about 64 bit. Now, when I launch 32 bit version, it works. Cool!

...

Works here running vista 64

Although, I cannot make it keep rendering intent as "Relative Colorimetric"

What does relative colorimetric means Tom.

Also, color rendering engine is not producing same results with Adobe (ACE)...

I'm going to check this out, this could be a big problem.

Thanks Tom for reply, you always impress me with your deep knowledge about image editing.

[tom]

Works here running vista 64

I meant 64 bit of the application. Are you sure you're not launching 32 bit under Vista 64?

What does relative colorimetric means Tom.

It's quite vital for profile conversions because it's a rendering intent which defines how to fit the color space into another.
Here you can find more information: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutori ... ersion.htm

Thanks Tom for reply, you always impress me with your deep knowledge about image editing.

I'm doing ad work professionally for a long time, that must be it.

[jespi]

Works here running vista 64

I meant 64 bit of the application. Are you sure you're not launching 32 bit under Vista 64?
.

Yes, I'm sure I'm launching the 64 bit app

Thanks Tom for reply, you always impress me with your deep knowledge about image editing.

I'm doing ad work professionally for a long time, that must be it.

That must be !

[jespi]

I've just discovered this promising node based image editing software called nakedLight http://www.naked.la
Still is in beta and only for mac, but worth take a look.

José

[mrcharles]

This was the program I started with back in 1991( http://www.qfx.com/ ). I left QFX for Photoshop v3 as I needed some of the photoshop features for my business work, but I am getting tired of the upgrading.

I haven't used qfx in many years, but I am getting frustrated with the adobe products. QFX was an extremely fast piece of software that was written for the professional in mind. At the time is was a full order of magnitude faster that photoshop. I have no experience with the current version, but you may find it worth looking at.

In the meantime... I will revisit qfx and have a look at pixel.

I also use Lightzone. It isn't the fastest software, but it has features that photoshop does not. It has been very useful for me. Depending on your needs, you may find it helpful... http://www.lightcrafts.com/lightzone/ .