[glypticmax]

Hi Flingster,
C4D plug works fine with R10 demo here.
I'm using Studio and have rendered up to 4000x with 2 gigs of RAM.
I never render out of the plug, I just make mxs to open in Studio.
Good luck.

[mashium123]

Hi Flingster.

The plug does not work in R10 as it works in R9.6.

(Ok, if you only use it as a simple scene-exporter to studio, it works as an geometry-exporter... but I try to avoid studio as much as possible)

NONE of the camera-paramaters you can define in the plug (ISO, FStop, Shutter... is realized in a render. Arch4D (a user in this forum) confirmed this in another thread. That was about two weeks ago. Heard nothing about developments in any kind since then.

[Tyrone Marshall]

Hi Flingster.

The plug does not work in R10 as it works in R9.6.

(Ok, if you only use it as a simple scene-exporter to studio, it works as an geometry-exporter... but I try to avoid studio as much as possible)

NONE of the camera-paramaters you can define in the plug (ISO, FStop, Shutter... is realized in a render. Arch4D (a user in this forum) confirmed this in another thread. That was about two weeks ago. Heard nothing about developments in any kind since then.

Thanks for reporting this Mash. I will get on it!

[corneliu]

my misstake to show up here

[lllab]

well cornelius, as much as i disagree with noseman, there are a lot of wrong things in your post.

one p.e. is that final render is not integrated by maxon, it is by cebas. it is a plugin like maxwell, just with a better connnection.

cheers
stefan

[corneliu]

well cornelius, as much as i disagree with nodeman, there are a lot of wrong things in your post.

one p.e. is that final render is not integrated by maxon, it is by cebas. it is a plugin like maxwell, just with a better connnection.

cheers
stefan

Sorry if I am wrong but as far as I knew Maxon took the internal render engine from Cebas in it's early days.
But now I see there is a final render stage 2 for Cinema 4D from Cebas.
Sorry.
I made wrong asumptions and put down a whole theory with that.
ALso I'm sorry if I know other points wrong but I am around 3D since 93 went from PC to SGi back to PC again and things just changed and changed.
The rest about Renderman should be right and that NL is working is for sure.
That VRay was delayed over and over again is also true.
I have Final Render for Maya 7 on my computer.
Also if you want we can talk a lot about the SDKs and their suport.

[lllab]

no maxon has its own renderengine, they developed it themselves, it has very strong and very weak parts( gi needs an update p.e.)
final render works very well. vray will come not to far away.

we are developing the vray connection so i know how complicated or not complicated such a connection is. the NL plugin could be much much better for sure, but most thing works also now.

cheers
stefan

[corneliu]

no maxon has its own renderengine, they developed it themselves, it has very strong and very weak parts( gi needs an update p.e.)
final render works very well. vray will come not to far away.

we are developing the vray connection so i know how complicated or not complicated such a connection is. the NL plugin could be much much better for sure, but most thing works also now.

cheers
stefan

sorry for the missunderstanding

[Rochr]

C4D is far from been considered a complete production ready software...

http://www.maxon.net/pages/dyn_files/dy ... ome_e.html

The second reason for radio silence from NL is the lack of understanding and this kind of attitude that makes them not updating C4D plugin versions because all they earn for their endless effort is other humiliating behaviour from users like you.
Everytime a problem is fixed they know scandal will start again.
If their would be more understanding and no users like you, maybe there would not be any need for a beta tester team that was made out of pepole that love results and understnd difficulties.

Everyone here have very good reasons for complaining.

If they would actually update the software for the better, without breaking or deleting highly functional features in the process, we wouldn´t have this problem.
Add to it that they only throw out updates when enough people are complaining, and there is no tech support, other than the friendly users here.

And btw, we are all beta testers here, testing a product that is only partially functional. NL still have a long way to go before i´ll consider using this for any serious work.

Sorry Corneliu, but i see you haven´t been around that long.
Let´s wait another year and a half, and then get back discussing this issue again. We´ll se if you´re still so positive about Next Limit and Maxwell.

[corneliu]

my misstake

[corneliu]

no maxon has its own renderengine, they developed it themselves, it has very strong and very weak parts( gi needs an update p.e.)
final render works very well. vray will come not to far away.

we are developing the vray connection so i know how complicated or not complicated such a connection is. the NL plugin could be much much better for sure, but most thing works also now.

cheers
stefan

you are right

[Rochr]

I just know they are no "scam" people and I hope the very near future will proof I am right.
It was just that I never saw a thread like noseman's on any forum before... and I could not help it keeping my mouth shut.

Well i really do hope you´re eventually proven right too. And i can´t be certain, but i think most people here feel the same way.

But honestly i´ve never seen a company behave as badly towards their customers either.
As i´ve said in another thread, if these guys would´ve been located in Sweden, and used this "Sell a fully featured plugin, deliver something different, give no refunds"-move, they would´ve been shut down a long time ago.
In most countries this kind of business practice is called a fraud and punishable by law.

[corneliu]

ok ... this all gets to a point way over my had to judge and comment.

[Tyrone Marshall]

Non biased renderes are 101 % known and you can simply take code from a book and build your on renderer.
The only problem is how you connect it to 20 applications and how fast 20 companies answer to your SDK problems and so on ...
Just take a look at VRay or even Final Render and their roumors for about 3-4 years that they will make their mighty Maya versions.

Maxwell is a clean R&D project that has come very very far and it is like comapring roast beef to pizzas to compare it to any non biased renderer.

Hoping that I do not make you mor angry... I just tried to give you all real reasons why something that is a huge fight for an outstanding product, seems through different eyes, to be lack of interest, arogant behaviour or even a scam.

Thanks Corneliu,

A lot of this has to do with understanding that development does not happen at light-speed. Not every feature is going to be 100% perfect, some will and others will need more time to get them there. That is all.

[Tyrone Marshall]

If they would actually update the software for the better, without breaking or deleting highly functional features in the process, we wouldn´t have this problem.
Add to it that they only throw out updates when enough people are complaining, and there is no tech support, other than the friendly users here.

And btw, we are all beta testers here, testing a product that is only partially functional. NL still have a long way to go before i´ll consider using this for any serious work.

Sorry Corneliu, but i see you haven´t been around that long.
Let´s wait another year and a half, and then get back discussing this issue again. We´ll se if you´re still so positive about Next Limit and Maxwell.

The software is being updated for one.

Another is that they do not 'throw' out updates when people complain. Hence why you have not seen a new plug-in version just yet. It will come when it is ready and not a moment sooner, irregardless of how much noise anyone makes on the forums or other forums.

And you are not a beta tester for Next Limit, trust that I know this fact very well. I cannot tell you much but know that you are not a beta tester for Cinemaxwell or Maxwell Render.