[Hybaj]

Fryrender fanboys versus Maxwell render fanboys.. oh well

[glebe digital]

Not a mistake vansan, thanks for posting!....just think the subtle nuance was maybe lost in translation.
Bring on the fried-maxwell comparisions, I'm sure there'll be lots over time.

[JDHill]

Fryrender fanboys versus Maxwell render fanboys.. oh well

Really, it was inevitable...we all knew it was just a matter of time before someone would bust out the 'ol F-word...

[Miles]

[Mihai]

Pick one

http://images.google.fr/images?q=fanboy ... d%27images

[glebe digital]

"once more unto the breach!"

[Miles]

[laughing my way towards strumpet status]

[thomas lacroix]

anyway, fryrender is only pluged to max if i understood, so it doesnt really compete with maxwell that as more connection ( i wont go in the plug quality bash)

[Fernando Tella]

Starting from the point that there is only one physical way that light moves in reality I wonder how come there's so much difference in render times if both renders are physically accurate. In which useless calculations does M~R spends the time or which calculations does FR omit. I know no programming at all, although I guess the calculations can be optimized but how much?

Maybe Juan or Victor can bring some light to this matter.

[The Pixel Artist]

Hey, just wanted to apologize to anyone that might have been offended by the image link I posted in my signature yesterday (removed it).

I really did feel bad after posting it. I'll maybe chalk it up to a little built up bitterness that I probably need to let go of. (I don't use my head before posting sometimes. One of the reasons I try to stay off forums or from posting very often. Should just stick to rendering. )

Anyhow, as fas as being a "fanboy"; well anyone that knows me here might remember me being a fanboy of Maxwell once. Seriously, I'm just a fan of any software that makes my work, and life, easily and better. I maybe can't help my excitement right now about how happy I am with Fry so far, and it's potential.

For the record, in many ways I still really like Maxwell, and use it daily for prelim work. I have never once thought that it didn't have tremendous potential. Needless to say I've just been very disappointed with is development history and consumer affairs. I can still say that I'm looking forward to seeing what NL has been secretly cooking deep in it's development labs. There's no doubt that there's some real programming talent there.

I truly hope that a little competition between Vray, Maxwell, and Fry (and others of course) will really pay off for all of us soon; and, with that said, if Maxwell still turns out to be the killer app and allows me to my job better, you will certainly see me being a fan of it's use again.

Again, apologies and regards. AB

[Miles]

Noble post, Pixel

We'll all benefit from the competition if Fry is a success, so good luck to them, I say.

[Thomas An.]

Your specifications are built on academics. Not everyone is concerned with the level of detail that you are.

Sorry, nothing to do with frivolous "details".
It is simple: An unsubstantiated performance claim has been made (from a fry user and posted here in a competitor's forum)... this claim must first be testable *before* it has merit.

As such, I repeat, (in this context of throwing out "first blush" and unconfirmable claims in an "in-your-face" manner showing a clear tilt of fry favoritism) ... "The tester could be falsifying and we wouldn't know". The tester could have errors and we wouldn't know.... or skill limitations, and we wouldn't know (did he even use proper, most optimal Vray settings ?) ...

It's not easy to make accurate render comparisons, so I don't see the merit of posting a misleading comparison. Perhaps for the merit of the initial troll-like post of vansan...

I agree that the post you mentioned was not in good taste or any spirit of fellowship.

You agree but also keep arguing ... that someone that acts like a shill on a competitor's forum might actually have trustworthy intentions which he doesn't even have to prove ... and we just have to trust.
You keep arguing a point of your own.. that even though the act was incorrect the competitor product as a whole has merit. This is entirely different (you should not even be quoting me in the first place)
(Also, I didn't see this unconfirmable comparison posted in the Vray forums; is this only a Maxwell targeting campaign ?)

[aitraaz]

Pick one

http://images.google.fr/images?q=fanboy ... d%27images

Ok, here's my pick:

[rivoli]

another place to pick up some:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... rch=Search

[Frances]

You agree but also keep arguing ... that someone that acts like a shill on a competitor's forum might actually have trustworthy intentions which he doesn't even have to prove ... and we just have to trust.
You keep arguing a point of your own.. that even though the act was incorrect the competitor product as a whole has merit. This is entirely different (you should not even be quoting me in the first place)
(Also, I didn't see this unconfirmable comparison posted in the Vray forums; is this only a Maxwell targeting campaign ?)

There is no campaign. There is only software in development. There is no shill. Vansan is a Maxwell user. Nothing he or anyone else has said here is in anyway endorsed by the developers of Fryrender.

A user at the Fryrender forum was nice enough to render Vansan's model with Fryrender so that he could see what it would look like. Unfortunately, since Vansan is not under any NDA with Feversoft, his actions or participation on other forums cannot be sanctioned (penalized) or controlled in any way by Feversoft.

I leave it to you to try to understand what the situation really is.

Regards,
- Fran Davey