[Maxer]

If this is true it could change everything!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060818/bs ... enceenergy

[tom]

Go McCarthy go!

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[Maxer]

This is a video from their web site.

http://www.steorn.net/media/downloads/s ... medium.mov

[Hybaj]

1st thermodynamic rule stinks .. but so does this invention. I would rather know more things about brown gas, Leedskalin's coral castle or even Grebennikov

[desclarke]

This looks like bullshit to me.
The only thing positive is, it's a demonstration of the power of the internet to engage the masses in one large argumentative effort. Apart from amassing a large database of email addresses (aiming at intellectuals especially), this company is putting itself on the map for some other agenda. There are no real "scientists" listed in the company description, come to think of it, there's very little information given on their credentials.
Whether or not it is "proved", Steorn can't lose. They will have shown how the information age can be taken advantage of, and I'm sure there are other "parties" who would be interested in that alone.

Des

[-Adrian]

I'll wait and see but i'm guessing hoax (or simply and unfinished thought). It's dumb to rule it out right away, as many scientists tend to do, because it violates our current "laws" of physics, but in this case it's being tested by many so i'm happy to hear results.

[JDHill]

20 people in the company, eh? ...all in the marketing department, I guess.

[DrMerman]

I read somewhere that it doesn't nessercarily violate the 1st law. They are using the phrase "creating energy" as there doesn't yet seem to be any good explanation of where this energy is coming from. Its a magnetical anomaly.

However saying that, and despite how much I'd LOVE it to be real, it's more than likely that its an ad campaign (that apparently started off of the new xbox site...weird...) and a damn good one at that

[tokiop]

It seems to be the same "free energy" that people are experimenting for a few years... in particular with small "lifters".

It is anyhow interesting if we talk about it, to have different scientific positions and experimentations.

[Maxer]

The way I look at it is are we so arrogant to believe that at this point in time we know everything there is to know about physics? I know that the scientific community currently agrees that this type of "free energy" is imposable but at one point everyone agreed that the world was flat and the sun orbited around the earth. There are countless truths that have been proven over the years to be untrue, so I'm willing to give these people the chance to prove their technology works.

[Hervé]

...hehe...is it a project like this special water that does not wet...? what happend to that btw... I remember someone posted some news about it...

[JDHill]

...I'm willing to give these people the chance...

Maxer...that's great, but don't be too open-minded...in the video you linked, the CEO stated plainly that what they are claiming is synonymous with travelling up a hill and back down with a net gain in energy...this is utter garbage, plain and simple. They're nothing more than 21st century alchemists with a website. Regarding ancient astronomical misconceptions...


a) it is a fallacy that the earth was widely thought to be flat. Even going back to early Greek times, the earth has been known to have been round, a fact which is obvious even on the simple observation that a sailing ship never reaches the horizon.

b) the transposition of the Earth/Sun orbital relationship was based on inferior tools combined with observations involving great distance. Since spatial relationships like these are always perceived relative to the viewer, it is extremely easy to misconstrue the movements to the opposite. To demonstrate this, just ask yourself, does Maxwell move the Sun around your scene, or the other way around? Nevermind that fact that it was also just a part of human nature to assume that the entire universe might revolve around the Earth.


On the other hand, humankind has never needed any great insight at all to know that energy can never be created from nothing. To put it another way...if their theory can be proven to be true, I'll give you 230 trillion-billion-gazillion dollars from the money tree I've got growing in my back yard.

~JD

[Maxer]

From what I've read some of the theories say that this device could be tapping into Zero Point energy which has been proven to exist. That would mean that it isn't actually creating energy just releasing it, but you’re probably right this is most likely a hoax but it's fun to think it might be true anyway.

[superbad]

If it worked (it doesn't), they wouldn't use silly publicity tricks like this, they would commercialize it and sell it. Creating a free energy machine would make this guy the richest man in the world by a factor of 100. Why would you give a shit whether scientists validated you or not? You'd keep it quiet as you could until you had something to sell.