[daros]

i agree Aitraaz, Xenakis is great!

[aitraaz]

lol, you're right - nothing better than listening to 'stochastic' music while doing unbiased montecarlo rendering

am reading his book, 'formalized music' - don't understand a word , very math heavy, but also some nice stuff of his regarding the phillips pavillion.

'Markovian Stochastic Music,' good lord

[ivox3]

Obviously the request for a single album isn't very reasonable. , but since you must have one ......this works for me.

by the way, ....why do you ask ?

Dif Juz: Extractions

an excerpt from the disc, Track 2: A Starting Point can be had here:

http://rapidshare.de/files/25376777/sta ... t.mp3.html
I believe under the fair use section of copyright law, I'm okay

[mtripoli]

Obviously the request for a single album isn't very reasonable. , but since you must have one ......this works for me.

by the way, ....why do you ask ?

Dif Juz: Extractions

IVOX3: If you're asking me, why do I ask, I could tell you all sorts of reasons... fascination with people, their opinions on music, art... art is a tough one (ok, blast me, no tougher than music, right?)... however, I think art is SUCH a personal thing (maybe up there with religion) that it might be impossible to convey ones feelings and thoughts regarding it... and for the most part, maybe just as impossible to actually see and experience a piece without taking pictures and writing a thesis, which would fall short I'm sure anyway...

With music, and the internet, it's much easier to suggest to someone what they like, and for us to go find it and have a listen... I've been exposed to so much music this way that I would have NEVER been able to find on my own in this lifetime...

There's another aspect that I think people in the last hundred years or so have completely missed out on... music used to be the prime entertainment for people; they would gather and listen, interpret, talk about it, understand it... even the "poor" knew more about music than most anyone you would meet on the street today. In high school (omg, that was a long time ago) and then later in college, we had what was then called "music appreciation" classes. Usually it was musicians that took the classes, or just those with an interest. It was there that I really learned to "listen"; to hear each instrument individually, to tear apart and reconstruct a piece of music, but also to forget all of that and enjoy it for what it is.. just beautiful music (when my kids were babies, we would drive in the car, and we would talk about music.. they can tell you how many and what kind of intruments are playing, time signatures, key)... too bad neither of them ever wanted to actually play an instrument (I play guitar). It was also there that I was first exposed to so many diverse types of music. We had a small group of people, always changing, that would get together and just listen to albums... one person would bring one and we would all listen. Didn't matter what it was - and then talk about it. I have a group of friends here that we've tried to do this, but as with everyone and everything, people can never make time for just sitting and relaxing (too, too f**king bad...).

Given the diversity of people on this forum, I thought it might be a cool way of "opening up" my musical ears again and hearing new things... already, I had never heard of the one posted by 8etty, but I will search it out... I've had a listen to the one by Frances... I've never heard of Xenakis, but I will now... you see, it's an amazing learning oppurtunity...

Now I think I'll listen to some Motorhead followed by Michael Hedges... maybe some Buckethead and Allison Krauss thrown in...

[aitraaz]

I've never heard of Xenakis, but I will now...

get some aspirin first lol, it can be a pretty rough experience.

Also worthwhile might be a quick read of a biography of Xenakis - i mean, totally mind bending this guy's life and works.

From post war anti-british greek revolutionary forced to flee after accusations of terrorism (his trademark facial scar from a bomb incident) - ends up in Paris where he gets an engineering degree. Decides to find a job, by chance knocks on the door of a certain LeCorbusier, architect. Starts working there as an engineer, but as a genius in mathematics starts taking a leading role in building design, as LeCorbusier becomes increasing interested in mathematical expressions in architecture. It starts to be unclear who is behind the buildings during this fase (la Tourette/Phillips/Firminy) - they start to argue, LeCorbusier fires Xenakis (after bitter fighting concerning who deisgned the phillips pavillion), who is already involved in porting his mathematical genius to music...One of first to use computers in music, with persepolis (electronic concert in Iran at the Persepolis ruins for the Shah of Iran) consecrated as genius and musical pioneer. An so on, so forth, etc..

Incredible...

[ivox3]

Thanks for the explanation Mike.


btw: [the late great] Michael Hedges -- damn good player he was, extremely original.

Also: the 8etty selection, pretty great. See here:

http://www.coralieclement.com/

[mtripoli]

Thanks for the explanation Mike.


btw: [the late great] Michael Hedges -- damn good player he was, extremely original.

Also: the 8etty selection, pretty great. See here:

http://www.coralieclement.com/

I've been holding off on stating my favorite: as I asked myself this question, I still haven't come up with an answer... however, Michael Hedges - "Aerial Boundaries" is very, very high on my list... I saw him play once in Pittsburgh, PA in a little tiny club... I sat about 10 feet away... if you know nothing about guitar, you can listen to his music and know what "beautiful" really means... if you play guitar, you realize that sometimes "god" really does speak through certain people... (for those that might have a listen, keep in mind that EVERYTHING you hear is being played by one man on one guitar - no overdubs, no multi-tracking, no studio tricks)... I saw him play once on a TV special with Crosby, Stills and Nash... they came onstage without their guitars... Crosby commented that they wouldn't need the guitars as they had Michael to play with them... it's hard for me to listen to his music without tearing up... he was an amazing spirit...

[ivox3]

Then you might like this: http://www.stropes.com/index.php?glbm=19&fa=7

Some of his tunings from various recordings.

[hdesbois]

Of course it depends on your mood, but :

this one is high on my list anytime.
HD

[deadalvs]

«engraved in black» by the band: «graveworm»

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deadalvs

[RonB]

O.K., I'm back into it...didn't mean to seem contrary. It's just that I have such an electic taste in music and could recommend a bunch of different stuff. But after your clarification I have to settle on this one. I also play guitar...lap steel and dobro.

Blonde On Blonde.

[mtripoli]

Then you might like this: http://www.stropes.com/index.php?glbm=19&fa=7

Some of his tunings from various recordings.

I actually have "Rhythm, Sonority, Silence" - the tab transcriptions of Michaels work (somewhere around here... it seems to have disappeared along Mason Williams tabs of his work). At first, it seems like it's impossible... but then as you continue to practice the pieces, it begins to unfold into almost a "surreal" way of playing that makes "sense" ( for the pieces, anyway)...

[glebe digital]

[mtripoli]

«engraved in black» by the band: «graveworm»

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deadalvs

I've checked out stuff you've mentioned before... just listened to "Losing my Religion" from Engraved in Black... reminds me of King Diamond, but on speed (plus I think KD sings higher, much higher)... is that a drummer or a drum machine...? If it's a guy, he's got a mean double-kick...

When I was a kid (17), I sang in this band called Exodus in No. California... Kirk Hammett was our guitarist at the time... they went on and put out 3 or so albums as I recall... fun time...

[jomaga]

Same colors, another style
The Smiths. Louder than bombs