[NicoR44]

Strange thing happening,

Tom maybe you know what is happening here

When I export this test model from Rhino as *.3ds and open it in RC it seems that it has turned 90°

One other thing, all my objects meshes seem to be flat shaded ( I think this is because it is a exported Rhino model to *3ds?)

Look at this screen shot:

[Mihai]

The rotation is most likely due to differences in coordinate systems, perhaps Rhino considers Z axis as up? In Maxwell Studio, Y is up.

[arch4d]

you are able to import *.3ds files ???

doesn´t work for me, it imports nothing then...

[tom]

Yes, these are problems with the differences of coordinate systems and they will be fixed by the file format improvements.

[Leonardo]

NicoR44,

Is that a chiken??

the .Obj export have a seting that says: "Y up"... 3ds does not

[JDHill]

NicoR44 :: just a FYI - this is a function that the Rhinoll plug-in was taking care of for us. In the SDK, it explains that the different CAD programs use different axes as *up*

[paxreid]

This happens for anything imported that doesn't go through a plug in for me. I have just changed the transformation setting when exporting to get it right until the fix it.

[Hugh]

The rotation is most likely due to differences in coordinate systems, perhaps Rhino considers Z axis as up? In Maxwell Studio, Y is up.

What? 'Y' is up? Is this delibrate then? I thought is was an oversight in Studio and reported it as a bug! Is it the intention to ignore the 3D convention of Z being up? If so why? whats wrong with it? Does Y provide less resistance to gravity and thus greater performance?

Does this really mean that every object I import from any other 3D program (cause I've never come across one where Z isn't up) will have to be rotated 90 degrees? Oh come on, jeez louise!! Z is up, Z is up,Z is up,Z is up, Join in everybody......

[NicoR44]

That clears it up Thanks Tom and all

Leonardo, yes chickens

[NicoR44]

Ow, one for the bug list:

shouldn't text be always on top?

[JDHill]

Oh come on, jeez louise!! Z is up, Z is up,Z is up,Z is up, Join in everybody......

I'm in the Western Hemisphere. Where are you? Which way is up?

~JD

[Mihai]

Hugh, I'm not sure if you're joking a bit or not but, Z makes much more sense in 3D to be the depth axis, think Z buffer for example, a very old concept. A 2D graph doesn't have X and Z axis does it? It has X and Y. So the third axis naturally should be Z. XSI also uses Y as the vertical axis and I think also Modo.

[tom]

Hugh, I'm not sure if you're joking a bit or not but, Z makes much more sense in 3D to be the depth axis, think Z buffer for example, a very old concept. A 2D graph doesn't have X and Z axis does it? It has X and Y. So the third axis naturally should be Z. XSI also uses Y as the vertical axis and I think also Modo.

Can't be said better
...also I agree JDHill This reminded me the old Galactica series. There were spaceship pilots loosing control and going down according to camera space.

[max3d]

I totally agree with Mihai. Never understood why so much 3d apps turned the world around. Z is depth by definition and x,y on the two axis of your screen is the most natural way to envision 3d.

[Frances]

I totally agree with Mihai. Never understood why so much 3d apps turned the world around. Z is depth by definition and x,y on the two axis of your screen is the most natural way to envision 3d.

It could have something to do with 2d drafting conventions. The cartesian coordinates in plan view show the Y-coordinate up and X to the right. When 3d came along, Z became the direction to indicate thickness or height.

Hence, everyone who has an AutoCAD background is schooled in the convention that Z represents thickness or height. Likewise, those who have written plug-ins or 3d apps that relate to AutoCAD have carried on the convention.