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By spekoun
#227507
So i opened last 1.1 scene. Hit render and C4D crashes comletelly. So i browsed forum and found some bugs, but not my one. So i tried some testing. Plugin crashes when in scene is some multimaterial object. There must be draged some texture and selection tags into maxwell tag. And this "mapping" is not read correctly by new Cinemaxwell. So i have to remap maxwell tags. Than it works.

I believe you worked hardly, many versions,many OS and so on... But this is unusable again!!!!!!!!! AGAIN!!!! Sorry, but what did you test??? I just opened last scene and hit rende! What more basic should tester do?? Every new version of Cinemaxwel bring some extra work. You just can not smoothly continue with your work. So i have to say, I am dissapointed again. I can not be happy with new enhancemets (there is no new feature in my opinion) in 1.5 when i have to rework all my scenes, which i would like to work on.

So please check C4D plugin again and release when is really ready, please. I can send you my problematic scene if it helps.

Cheers

P.S.: And again sorry for complaining, i love maxwell and i know you do hard job. I am waiting fot some update impatiently... ;)
By Becco_UK
#227524
The problem described also exists with the Windows 32 bit Cinema plugin.
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By Tyrone Marshall
#227556
Thanks Spekoun,

I understand the frustation, there are some great gems in the plugin.

Please post a stripped Cinema 4D scene.

I'll take a look at it. Please let me know which version of C4D you use.
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By Kabe
#227596
folks,

I deeply understand your frustration about the current state of the plugin.

Please keep in mind a couple of things though:

The plugin is relying on the main app, and the testers involved are in a kind of
moving target mode, keeping track of their bugs, finding new ones, nail it
down the conditions and affected versions. In terms of application logic and
time the plugins have to come after engine/SDK changes, so the plugins (all
of them) can't be tested as long as the main app.

Were the testers out of bugs? Certainly not, good testers *never* are out
of bugs, and I have yet to participate a beta test were the testers were
happy at release time.
However, beta tester also would never release a product, and if they would
have the last word, they would keep it in the test until infinity.

So, what's the road out of here?

First, be constructive (btw most of you are).
Try to describe in as much detail as possible what is going wrong, try to
provide example scenes. Testing is mostly documenting things that go
wrong, not just finding them.

Then, if your job depends on it, then never install a new version
immediately after release.
Never. It doesn't matter if this is NL, Adobe, MS, Pixologic, Maxon or
whoever. Even the historic record of a company can fool you. Maxon had
great and quite stable releases in the past, and R10.0 was not ready for
production. Hundreds of user will always find more bugs than the testers,
and mostly even very obvious ones.

And last: Don't blame the testers, I mean it.
They didn't wrote the code, they did not decide about the release dates.
Every single one of them would love to extend testing time and have a
couple of months to just work with a "Golden master" to make it rock
solid. You would be angry that there's no Cinema plugin...

In a month from now, I'm confident that we have a solid plugin.

Kabe
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By spekoun
#227650
So here is a object that kills C4D. On my PC it kills C4D for 100%. I use Win XP x64 and C4D 10.1. My scene crashes on both 32 and 64 version of Cinemaxwell. I tried already describe in original post, but: problm makes objects with mutlimaterial made in pewious version. If i reassign textures and poly selections in maxwell custom MXM tag, problem is solved. I test only custom MXM tag which uses texture no other cases.

file: http://www.allviz.cz/images/crashobject.zip

And again sorry for blaming testers and complaining. It was my fist feeling and i could not resist. :oops: Unil i hit render I was very happy with plugin and new features. And it did not caused any problem in my production, I know I should not instal Maxwell update when deadline is near. But sorry again :oops: , when i get update of Allplan or C4D i update imediatly and i never have ANY problem continuing on my work. :?
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