[tom]

...and still all these word games don't make one frosted dragon you could post.

[Fernando Tella]

The challenge was about render engines not about you both, wasn't it?

[tom]

When there's nothing to post, the conversations flood the place....

[Bubbaloo]

I think the reason that no photo reference is needed is because it's such a simple scene and setup, that the only difference in render outputs will be due to render engines abilities. Adding a photo reference would only cause people to use the reference as a way to fake and take shortcuts to simulate the photo exactly. What I think Tom wants to see is a basic shader rendered in many different engines to compare results. Nobody said Maxwell's output in this challenge is that reference. It's just what Maxwell output. What can other engines do with such an easy scene and default materials?

[Fernando Tella]

Is a plane included in the scene to act as an emitter? The image from Vray seems to have a slightly different point of light.

[rusteberg]

Is a plane included in the scene to act as an emitter? The image from Vray seems to have a slightly different point of light.

yeah, there's a plane in there. i used a vray light in its place... for some reason i couldn't get the light to align with the plane properly... lo siento

edit: here you go
Vray Scene (Max 2009)
http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/6/18/ ... 1cvray.max

like i said earlier, i'd like to see someone else take a stab at it for a better result/comparison/ability/pride/ego/what have you...

[tom]

Sent a second test here using a reference photo.
http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/view ... 48&t=34574

[tom]

Here are two more technical examples from Maxwell V2:

Orange rough ball under frosted glass


Orange frosted glass ball behind frosted glass


Btw, I'm still waiting for your dragon and red cup contributions.

[simmsimaging]

No offence to Rusteberg, but the Vray render could be a lot better. I am pretty sure I can get quite close just using RT, never mind the full engine. I'll get on it when I have a few minutes and post another one for at least a different comparison.

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[tom]

I am pretty sure I can get quite close just using RT, never mind the full engine. I'll get on it when I have a few minutes and post another one for at least a different comparison.

Please, do. There's also another scene #2

[rusteberg]

No offence to Rusteberg, but the Vray render could be a lot better.

dude, no offense taken. actually, i hope your attempt smashes mine

[simmsimaging]

I haven't forgotten - just haven't quite had the time yet to finish it off and render. I'll get it out soon. Probably have to settle for the dragon scene only though Tom

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[tom]

haven't quite had the time yet to finish it off

I have to mention, Maxwell setups of both tests took several minutes, even including modeling of the cup.

[ababak]

I have to mention, Maxwell setups of both tests took several minutes, even including modeling of the cup.

And the first one took several minutes, even including modeling the dragon, right?

[Bubbaloo]

I have to mention, Maxwell setups of both tests took several minutes, even including modeling of the cup.

And the first one took several minutes, even including modeling the dragon, right?

The dragon is a scanned 3D model.