[spekoun]

My tip: Athlon X2 3800+, 2GB RAM, Georce 6600... good performance for low cost...

[Maxer]

Read this article, it's pretty clear which processor is better.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-63 ... ml?tag=btn

[JesperW]

If you want a reasonably silent computer, buy AMD. Comparable Intel processor = twice the power = twice the heat = twice the fan-noise....
/j

[Maxer]

I honestly can't see a bad side; you get a faster chip for a cheaper price. As far as 64 bit computing goes, these guy's were the first to create a 64 bit chip so if anything Intel is playing catch up to try and keep them from capturing the market. I have seven 64 bit systems and have not had any problems and I've had them for 2.5 years.

[aitraaz]

does amd support all the softwares ..?amd is good , everyone is saying but what is bad side of amd , there must be some , isnt it ? how about 64 bit computing ?

Well, amd is kicking intel's arse all over the place right now, no doubt about that...AMD processors do tend to run at higher temperatures than intel procs, signifigantly higher, so one needs to be a bit careful in terms of cooling...if for some reason your system overheats, its much more likely that an amd processor will self destruct as compared to intel...

[Maxer]

if for some reason your system overheats, its much more likely that an amd processor will self destruct as compared to intel...

How do you figure this aitraaz? If the cooling fans stop on any computer whether they have Intel or AMD in them the chips will fry unless you turn off the machine. Saying that AMD is more likely to overheat is like saying a Ford is more likely than a Chevy to over heat.

[-Adrian]

Especially since it's the other way around.
The AthlonXP was the last CPU with extensive heat emission. Both Athlon64 and Opteron cores have lower heat emission than their comparable intel unit, netburst is an ongoing disaster.

luna, definitely go with AMD, they deserve your money more than intel.

[rivoli]

duel core is good or bad ?

good, go for it.

does it improve performance ?

yes.

i saw in some thread that the guy complains that one cores renders and another remains idle. what will u say about that ? is that is the case ?

no, is not the case. maxwell can and will use both cores.

[Maxer]

Exactley

[aitraaz]

Well, at least the intel p4's have the stepdown integration, which means as the proc heats up towards critical temperature, the processor slows down, so, in theory, without a heatsink or fan the bugger won't burn out (so it wouldn't fry if the fans break)...AMD for a good deal of time didn't have a thermal sensor on their procs with an autoshutdown, so if critical temperature were met, it was a meltdown. (I've had two catch fire overnight but it was probably a result of my dick craftsmanship). Obviously AMD has worked alot on this, and the new procs do have thermal sensors, bu me don't know how many motherboards support them...AMD's do still run hotter, think the critical temp is well above 90° as opposed to 80 on intel but dunno...

Chevy ..great car...

[aitraaz]

no, is not the case. maxwell can and will use both cores.

Yep...and maybe wait for a final word on the nl per socket license policy...

[rivoli]

maybe wait for a final word on the nl per socket license policy...

well, i guess they already said that final word, at least for the moment.

[aitraaz]

well, i guess they already said that final word, at least for the moment.

bum...

[aitraaz]

and I am looking at graphics cards (any ideas on good ones? is getting a dual graphics-card system that much better?) also, how important is a graphics card in regards to 3D Apps and Maxwell in specific?
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Well maxwell don't use any hardware acceleration yet (if you're into that you could check gelato by nvidia or something similar), so it won't speed up render times...it will give you, however, at lot more power for texturing, viz, etc...

[-Adrian]

Two Dual-core AMD 3800+X processors
3 Gig ram
1TB harddrive

I'm not aware that X2 processors are MP capable, Opterons are however. And you should rather go with an even number for you memory (2GB/4GB) to keep it running in dual-channel.

here's another very recent comparison of AMD and Intel cpus.

Well, at least the intel p4's have the stepdown integration, which means as the proc heats up towards critical temperature, the processor slows down, so, in theory, without a heatsink or fan the bugger won't burn out (so it wouldn't fry if the fans break)...AMD for a good deal of time didn't have a thermal sensor on their procs with an autoshutdown, so if critical temperature were met, it was a meltdown. (I've had two catch fire overnight but it was probably a result of my dick craftsmanship). Obviously AMD has worked alot on this, and the new procs do have thermal sensors,

Hardly a point to choose a cpu upon, and i've never seen a low strain device like a fan fail, they run a decade.

bu me don't know how many motherboards support them...AMD's do still run hotter, think the critical temp is well above 90° as opposed to 80 on intel but dunno...

Boards for AMD cpus are just as great as boards for Intel cpus, in terms of memory environment even greater imho if you look at DFI boards.
The critical temp argument is nonsense,it only shows at what temperature the might experience damage and Athlon's seem to stomach heat better if your statement is correct.

This is not the place to bring fanboyism, i run an intel chip myself as you can see but if Athlon64 and Opteron are better than Pentium4 and Xeon at the moment, i can admit and support that.