[Maximus3D]

Noo, AR3 is not unbiased. But it doesn't have to be to be included with the other examples i posted. Does it ?

/ Max

[tom]

I included the unbiased example to show what it looks like, you're free to ignore it if you want.

Noo, AR3 is not unbiased.

Max, several times in this thread I've clearly mentioned this is a common problem of "unbiased" rendering. What's the point of posting a biased example among comparisons?

To me it sounds like you NL guys put up so many high barriers to keep Maxwell unbiased that it blocks you from developing a fully functional engine. This is one proof of that.

Any unbiased engine will have this problem. It's not a matter of decision and it's unable to make an engine unbiased while only biasing the shading on surfaces. Now, another unbiased engine having this issue is not a surprise but, the opposite would be.

There is only one emitter in the scene, nothing else.

What's the explanation for this second shadow? Maybe sun? A bug? You can send me the MXS if you like. I found this interesting enough.

[Maximus3D]

Ok Tom.. i have not read every post in this thread from start to finish so i might have missed what you said earlier and if so i am sorry. Unfortunately i have no explanation for that secondary sharper shadow and i trashed the scene when the testrenders were finished so i can't send it to you. Sorry!

It should be easy to replicate as it's only a sphere on a floor with a single emitterplane on the left side angled towards the sphere. Nothing more than that.

/ Max

[tom]

OK, I'd be thankful if you can replicate because I cannot.

[jespi]

Edit: Post deleted. I misunderstood the question, Tom.

[kami]

there are a few more unbiased renders besides maxwell and fry. can somebody post the results with those render engines, if you have installed them?

[tom]

Great idea. So we can see if there are fakers.

[JorisMX]

I heard about

Indigo,
Luxrender (freeware),
Fryrender
Kerkythea ...

Are there any more?