- Mon May 09, 2005 4:57 pm
#23147
Have you ever heard the term the squeaky wheel always gets the grease? I see no reason not to ask these questions, if NL chooses not to answer them that's there decision. I'm quite aware of what their current policies are, my questions revolve around whether or not they plan on offering any different options relating to network licensing in the future. I don't think that is demanding, it's just frustration because of the upcoming price increase and not knowing what to expect in the final release. I think once beta testing begins a lot of these questions will be answered but it's necessary to ask this stuff especially for people who are going to be asking a company to make a sizeable financial commitment with almost no idea of what the final product is going to perform like.dann_stubbs wrote: you are pretty demanding in your requests - i myself have had all my questions answered very quickly by emailing NL directly - they have been very quick and accomodating to all my questions.
Are you serious, of course were being asked to buy it, if there not asking us then who are they talking to? What's the purpose of this pre-order software if not to entice people to use their product, there asking me to pay to use an Alpha copy? There asking me to believe that in the end the laundry list of things that will be in the final release will actually be there. And yes they do owe us something, they owe us exactly what has been promised and advertised, and I'm not asking for anything more than that.dann_stubbs wrote: as for many of your gripes - we are not being "asked" to buy it - it is a free market, you like it, you buy it - or you don't. out of good customer service they "should" answer questions - but they technically don't "owe" us or you anything. the best way is to vote with your wallet - don't purchase and don't support them if you don't like how they do business - if enough feel the same then they will go out of business or change their ways to survive. - kinda silly analogies you make....
Actually I have looked into the licensing of both of these packages, and while I'll admit that Maxwell is cheaper in relation to these two ask your self this, how many architecture firms use mental ray or renderman? I'd be willing to bet it's a very small number when compared to something like Vray or Final Render. You say it's a pretty reasonable price, but that all depends on what you’re comparing it to. Try comparing it to Vray or Final Render and then tell me about how cheap it is. As for renderman and mental ray they both give your discounts depending on how many licenses your buy. Mental Ray jumps from $1500 per 2 licenses to $1000 per 2 licenses if you buy more than 10.dann_stubbs wrote: from reading all your previous gripes in this thead you dont seem to know what third party render engines cost - mental ray, renderman, air, and other top level render engines cost from $500 to $1000 average per processor. it seems to me that is the market they are looking for - at full retail price MW will be $250 per processor - unless there is some major shakeout in the third party render market (which i feel there could be soon due to a pretty saturated market) that is actually a pretty reasonable price. you also left off that maya has unlimited software rendering too...?
do i really have to ? plzz don't make me! don't force me to read all 4 pages full of text'n'stuff 
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