[insomnia3d]

i just got around to install vista 64 and i am going crazy. My dell has fujitzu drives and when downloading the drivers from the dell site all they have is maxtor. i called them up and they do not have the drivers, that i need to contact fujitzu, but damn it it's saturday.
Has anyone succesfully installed and knows were the vista64 drivers are for the fujitzu SCSI drives?

I feel like that new apple comertial.

[Romans]

WHY VISTA????

the 3D-performance is sooo poor!!!

I have tried the RC2 with ADT2006, ADT2007, 3ds Max 6 and 9 and working was terrible...

But if you need it...good luck.

The problem with SCSI: Vista don´t comes with drivers for SCSI. (winXP includes this drivers).

Best wishes,

Roman

have a look to the off topic thread too: Vista's informations...

[Maximus3D]

I agree with Romans above, you should stick with what actually works (XP Pro) and don't play with fire (Vista) as it will only toast you like a piece of bread.

/ Max

[Micha]

I'm using Win XP pro and think about to buy XP 64. Is it worth to do the step? I like to use more RAM per task, so XP64 could be the solution.
Is XP64 a stable solution?

[michaelplogue]

I'm using Win XP pro and think about to buy XP 64. Is it worth to do the step? I like to use more RAM per task, so XP64 could be the solution.
Is XP64 a stable solution?

I've found XP64 to be very stable. Being able to use as much RAM as your motherboard can handle is well worth the upgrade in my opinion.

[glypticmax]

Michael,
Would you suggest running XP 32 and XP 64 off different HD's? Or switching the whole system over to XP 64. My concern is that some things might not take to XP 64, like a much needed plug in or some little prog I use. The major stuff like Rhino, PS CS2, Maxwell, C4D will either run on XP64 or have 64 bit versions. Its the little stuff I'm concerned about.
And how about drivers? MOGO, vid card. Will I need new drivers? If so, a dual OS set up could be a pain.
I have no clue.
Thanks for any tips.

[aitraaz]

You shouldn't need to run both 32 & 64 bit xp - xp64 runs 32 bit apps no problem. Maybe some older software wont run (so far i've only had one app not run amongst hundreds). Drivers is another issue, by now its got pretty good support but you might wanna check and make sure all of your hardware drivers are available for xp64...

[michaelplogue]

All of your devices will need to have 64 bit drivers. You should first check with each company to ensure they have 64 bit drivers for each item before making the decision. The first system I built for XP64 I did have a bit of trouble finding drivers - but that was because XP64 had just came out. I think you'll find that there'll be drivers available - especially for any newer equipment. You may not be able to find drivers for older hardware.

As for software: You only really need to worry about software that's 16 bit or below. Any 32 bit program will run with no problem - at least in my experience. I've only had problems with one plugin - and that is because their licensing program is still 16 bit - and the company has been dragging it's ass for almost a year and a half getting around to re-compiling it. the plugin itself is 32 bits and would run fine - if only I could license it.

Obviously, If you are going to use a 64 bit version of your 3d Program/s, you will need to use 64 bit plugins. But if they don't have any, the 32 bit version work just fine under XP64.

You could do a dual boot system - it really couldn't hurt anything.

[glypticmax]

Thanks guys.
Looks like to to check on drivers. My MOBO and vid card are a couple of months old. Those and my CD/DVD player/burner and a jump drive are all I need. Its offline and I don't print with it.
When Maxwell comes out with 64 Bit that will definately push me over the edge.

[michaelplogue]

Don't forget, you'll need new drivers for the motherboard as well (for all the onboard stuff like network, sound, etc).......

[glypticmax]

Hi Michael,
No network, no sound card, no modem. I keep le design box pretty focused on the task at hand.
I'm sure I'll be back with the dumb ass question of the day once I wade into 64 bit.

[insomnia3d]

I guest i will make a diary for the Windows Vista 64/32 experience.

Day1.

_I finally found the Adaptec SCSI controller driver that i needed in order to install Vista 64. The installation went well and the softwares are back in. The video, audio, etc drivers were automatically installed so that made it easier to upgrade. Neither the 32 nor the 64 will initially run Max9; this is due to the overprotective architecture of vista. in order to run them one must set the software to 'open as administrator'. Once open the first obvious thing we notice is the shitty quality of the DirectX9 conflicting with Vista's X10. Not to worry, just change your graphic card mode to Open GL. Max runs flawlessly and stable. However it is a pain on the ass that every time you need to install something the OS will stop it and make sure that you will take the fault for any issues this installation might bring. So far all machines running either 32 or 64 are running great. So my fears are slowly decimating.

_As far as networking and connections, the OS seems to make it as simple as OSX. Everything is visible just by opening the network tab and the internet connection is strictly automatic.

_One thing in which i am disappointed is that the 32bit version still only recognizes 3gigs max, although it will use all four.
To be continued....

[Micha]

I found at the www infos, that Microsoft give a free upgrade from XP Pro to XP64. This infos are quite old. Do somebody know something about it?

At Microsoft I found this page:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bi ... fault.mspx

[aitraaz]

I think that was like a 3 months offer that ended a few years ago, I guess a free upgrade just went too much against microsofts character. You can still get a 3 month xp64 trial though:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bi ... trial.mspx

[Aji Enrico]

I found at the www infos, that Microsoft give a free upgrade from XP Pro to XP64. This infos are quite old. Do somebody know something about it?

At Microsoft I found this page:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bi ... fault.mspx

Was just on my way to reply you on that.

If you look into history, Windows newest OS will be more stable/secure and usable than the previous OS AFTER service pack 1 or 2.