[deadalvs]

i have read some on the web and i think that november will be great !

it seems that the first quadcore xeons (5300?, clovertown) will be out on socket 771, first @ 2.66 GHz per core (later cheaper ones slower clocked).

i am not a pro in pc hardware... does it seem that two of these babies will work on a two socket mainboard, as it should be ? should they also be easily overclockable ?

are there any rumours that i missed that kill my dream ?

any comments on that ? because this would be my next pc i buy...

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deadalvs

[aitraaz]

Well, the clovertowns should be out first, and you've got the x5355 at 2,66 on the high end running roughly 1,000 € ( ) and the e5310 at 1,6 on the low end at about 400 €.

Then the kentsfields should be released (more or less two core duo 2 e6700's slapped into one cpu) with the x3220 at 2,4 on the highend at roughly 800€ and the x3210 at 2,13 on the low end for about 699 €.

And just to keep the suspense up, Intel plans a Q1 release in '07 for the Tulsa xeon cpu's (based on netburst architecture) which promise a dashing 3,5 ghz for the 7150n, which will cost the measely sum of approx. 2500 €.

Not really sure about overclocking, i mean, i'm not even sure I'd want to overdo it with a big expensive piss monster like a dual quad.

I've noticed some promising core 2 duo overclocks, like an E6300 which was pumped from the 1.83 ghz stock to 3.74 ghz with air cooling alone ( lol the ThermalTake Big Typhoon air cooler never fails ):

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=120669

So the core 2 duo architecture should be game for it

[deadalvs]

...with a big expensive piss monster like a dual quad...

harhar... !

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but it should work to get a dual quad working just like this in november ??

this would be a nice f'n step in rendering speed...

tulsa... sounds like death valley...

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core 2 duos are great in overclocking, i have seen this too... and great to build a cheap farm !

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deadalvs

[Mihai]

I'm not sure but I think the Clovertowns are ment to be used in dual socket motherboards, and Kentsfield in single?

[Frances]

I'm not sure but I think the Clovertowns are ment to be used in dual socket motherboards, and Kentsfield in single?

Yes.

[aitraaz]

Yup, and the clovertowns should be out in the next month or so, and the X5355 and E5345's will be compatible with the current mac pro motherboard (go figure, the two more expensive models), so pretty soon I'd expect a new (and costly) clovertown option directly from apple...

[Mihai]

Why only those two?

[aitraaz]

They're the only two that support the 1333 mhz FSB which the mac pros currently use. Not to make Steve Jobs any richer lol...

[b-kandor]

I've made out very well with my 6400 on a p5b deluxe mb. I'm still getting used to how fast it is. It's been 3 weeks and it still feels quick - usually that wears off in a few days

When I posted this it was the fastest dual core in the list. And at a great price.

http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/view ... &start=146

I've been running it at 3.2 ghz since I bought it. A 50% oc.

Kandor

[deadalvs]

is there any important difference between the motherboards in the new mac pros and a normal pc mainboard, as for example these:

- ASUS DSBF-D
- ASUS DSBF-D/SAS
- ASUS DSBV-D
- Intel S5000PSLSATA

?

i would like to have a new mac pro, of course, but there are no official 64 bit drivers and no support for it by apple (i wanna go 64 bit.). PLUS apples are too expensive !

so could i just use one of these boards to have an equal product as the new mac pro ? (why actually always the fuss about mac pros... hehe)

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deadalvs

[aitraaz]

In general i doubt the macpro mobo has any advantages over other ones (if at all its the other way around), so you could save on cash and assemble the same pc machine and xp will run much better anyways...

64 bits installs ok on the mac pro (you do a manual install of the 64 bit drivers and make a few, ahem, sacrifices), and it runs pretty silent.

For maxwell, at least, there's not much sense using OSX on it until the UB's are released (64 bits? - guess we'd have to wait for Leopard anyways). Plus running win on the macpro I get at least 3 bsod's a day (arghh).

50% oc, not bad...

EDIT: Some Kentsfield benchmarks: http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdo ... i=2846&p=2

[b-kandor]

It's like free money

About motherboards, one reason mine is easy to overclock, is because the p5b deluxe has "8 phase power" instead of 3 phase on the p5b board.

Keep in mind I have no knowledge of why it's better -- I just read about it. But it sort of makes sense, there are actually 8 little regulators around the cpu. Means each one works less, so less stress and heat, and the power pushed to the cpu has less ripples because there are more phases.

I've taken the fsb from 266 upto 420 but settled at 400.

Kandor

[deadalvs]

i have seen a cinebench 2003 number: 1459 for a dual-quadcore...

this seems very weak for this kind of processors... how can this be ?

any ideas ?

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deadalvs

[Mihai]

Where did you see it? That score seems more usual for a single quadcore.

[thomas lacroix]

i second mihai, current quad core xeon mobo runs around 1600 Cinebench, i cant believe its so low...