[big K]

sometimes i also don´t believe that they have gone there. it would all perfectly fit in the time with the race to the moon against the soviets. it did not look good for the US and in the end they made it with big steps.
but if you look closly one has to admit that it had happened. soon we will know for sure. (when the next missions start)

just to add to the radiation problem:
it was said that the late 60s and early 70s were luckily a period of low solar activity and therefore the radiation was not very high.
in other times there would have been more problems with the radiation.


i really enjoy all the tv shows about these days we have right now ! it was a special time.

[RonB]

I know a retired computer engineer that was part of the Appollo 11 mission team. He assures me we did in fact land on the moon. His point of view is all the no landing theories were caused by NASA itself in trying too hard to glamorize the accomplishment for the public, via over working images, video, etc. He also told me my first computer, a Mac II Ci with 20 megs of ram and a 105 hard drive, could have handled the entire mission as a no-brainer. He said they had cabinets the size of up right freezers at a cost of $250,000 each that held the equivalent of 150K of ram.

The sad part about all this is that we diminish the courage, contributions and memory of people that sat in those machines, especially the ones that died in them. Not many of you guys were even born when Gus Grissum, Ed White and Roger Chaffee burned to death in their Appolo 1 capsule. Reality gave us all a wake up slap in the face. Around 14 people died in accidents having to do with training, both US and Russian, leading up to the moon landing. Neil Armstrong nearly died testing a lander prototype.

Too bad the early days were all about political motives and Cold War supremacy instead of cooperative exploration.

I believe my friend, he is the only person I know that was there.

RonB

[Bubbaloo]

The sad part about all this is that we diminish the courage, contributions and memory of people that sat in those machines, especially the ones that died in them.

I don't think anything is diminished in any real way. Only in the minds of a few, maybe. Anyway... we live in a different time. A time of diminishing trust of the government. It's always a good thing to ask questions and keep a watchful eye and open mind.

Possibility and probability. Is it probable that it was a hoax? No. But the possibility is there, and it intrigues me.

[yolk]

err..they installed a mirror up there to measure the earth-lunar distance variations with a laser. it's measured daily even here in zurich..how did it get there?

c'mon guys! nothing this big (actually not even the smallest shitty secret like you banged your neighbor's wife) can be kept secret for long - so how would 150'000 scientists keep this a secret for 40 years if it was all a fake?

get a life - go bang that neighbor's wife

[Bubbaloo]

Case closed. Yolk has spoken.

[tom]

He also told me my first computer, a Mac II Ci with 20 megs of ram and a 105 hard drive, could have handled the entire mission as a no-brainer.

Today, Windows alone is enough to make any available system fail. That's why now there's no flight to moon I guess.

[Frances]

Anyway... we live in a different time. A time of diminishing trust of the government. It's always a good thing to ask questions and keep a watchful eye and open mind.

I can see how 8 years of Bush in the White House would diminish people's trust in the government. I can also see that there are people who don't believe that Obama is qualified to be president because they don't believe he is a natural-born US citizen. They're called bigots.

[Bubbaloo]

I can also see that there are people who don't believe that Obama is qualified to be president because they don't believe he is a natural-born US citizen. They're called bigots.

Even though it's straying OT, I'll respond to this one because it's so ridiculous.

Obama's place of birth was relevant because our law states that being an American born citizen is a requirement for presidency. Has nothing to do with bigotry.

and did I mention ?

[Peder]

Apparently these were the cameras:
http://hasselblad.com/about-hasselblad/ ... meras.aspx

Apparently there are 12 of the EDC cameras still lying about on the moon. If someone would just care to pick them up I'd buy one...

Peder

[ivox3]

Really ? ....just laying around ?

I'd like to trouble any extraterrestrials in the audience here if they wouldn't mind taking a quick 384403 km jaunt ? I can't imagine a trip to the moon being more effort than say one of us running out for some milk ?

Tom ? whadd'ya say ? ....hmmmm ? 12 cams, 12 mxm prizes .... Pretty fitting me thinks.