Please post here anything else (not relating to Maxwell technical matters)
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By N&B
#206073
what settings do You use, N&B ?
Well, my settings are:

333 fsb (stock voltage) with the ram running at 667 (1:1 ratio). Cas 4,4,4,12 1.9v
Cpu 333x9 (3ghz) default voltage (manual mode) : 1.325v
Voltage slope enhancement: disabled.
EIST: disabled

I'm also maintaining 69°C at full load while rendering the speedtest scene. But I'm using a large heatsink with a 120mm fan.
However I've observed a 5~6°C difference between the two dualcore dies. If one die is at 50°C idle, the other one is at 45°C at the same time.
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By deadalvs
#206093
does Your system start with a multiplier of 11?
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By deadalvs
#206223
it is pretty demotivating at the moment.

i have tried many configurations with 3.33 GHz and it seems none of them survives a «large rendering». damned.

what could be the problem when it starts rendering, i have absolutely no problem with temperature and after two hours of so the application just closes... ?

this is pretty SHITTY !

i've gone back to mainly standard settings with just a few simple changes ! why after so much time ??? not even problems with the maxwell speed test !

:evil: :evil:
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By deadalvs
#206224
how do other overclockers have working boxes at 3.66 GHz and 3.72 GHz !?!

FUCK !
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By Maximus3D
#206229
Ok.. sorry about this hijack but i didn't feel like starting a new thread for this small thingy.

But i just today ordered a new rig, it's time to archive my smelly old P4 3ghz and upgrade to something better. :)
So i went for this.. i'll get the juicy parts at the end of this week, then i gotta build it and kick it up'n'running. Can't wait for it now! i'm so excited about it hehe

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By numerobis
#206249
not all cpus of the same model overclock to the same level... but i think yours is not that bad.

have you tested the system stability with orthos? you should let it run in blend mode for at least 5-6 hours (or longer!).

- what psu do you use (seperate 12v rails? ampere on each rail and combined?)

- the vcore you posted - is it in bios or windows?
>>>here is cpu-z for conroe to read out the vcore... if it works with kentsfield :roll:
http://www.thegamecentral.de/jgs_db.php ... b076347557
(don't know if the bx2 drops the vcore under load and how much)

some infos about your bad axe 2:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... p?t=129677
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By N&B
#206363
how do other overclockers have working boxes at 3.66 GHz and 3.72 GHz !?!
Maybe they didn't test their cpus with such a thing like maxwell. IMHO most of the bench apps do not stress the cpu as Maxwell does.
Mine is perfectly stable at 3.33 Ghz too, until I render something with maxwell...
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By deadalvs
#206365
@ N&B.

i think going with mostly the default setting is the most stable. my 3.66 GHz config which is bootable just needs a higher coreV and thus gets too hot. when using 3.33 GHz with higher coreV the cpu gets too hot too to render but is super ok in temperature when working with default voltage.

* * *

by the way... i found out what was the great surprise...

as reported the renderings failed (maxwell just closed) after 20 mins or 2 hours or whatever. i found out when one of my bootable configs didn't want to start any more... --> took out two ram sticks .. «et voilà !»

fucked up ram !

but i have to figure which one of my 2 i took out is the problem. plus i want to test each of the other ones too... !

:?:
what apps can find out the faults in ram and test them fully ??
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By -Adrian
#206366
Maximus3D wrote:But i just today ordered a new rig
Congrats, quite similar to mine, except such a nice gfx card :)
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By deadalvs
#206367
numerobis wrote:not all cpus of the same model overclock to the same level... but i think yours is not that bad.

have you tested the system stability with orthos? you should let it run in blend mode for at least 5-6 hours (or longer!).

- what psu do you use (seperate 12v rails? ampere on each rail and combined?)

- the vcore you posted - is it in bios or windows?
>>>here is cpu-z for conroe to read out the vcore... if it works with kentsfield :roll:
http://www.thegamecentral.de/jgs_db.php ... b076347557
(don't know if the bx2 drops the vcore under load and how much)

some infos about your bad axe 2:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... p?t=129677
1) where can i find orthos and what does it do in these hours ?

2) what is psu ?? :) i'm not a computer pro ...

3) vcore is in bios and was taken by the app «core temp»

4) i got cpu-z and it's usable. interesting that under no load, the cpu is slowed down to 1.66 GHz...
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By N&B
#206370
what apps can find out the faults in ram and test them fully ??
Ask google for "Memtest Windows".
There is also Memtest 86+ which runs under Dos (and you'll have to boot from a special home made floppy).
2) what is psu ?? Smile i'm not a computer pro ...
PSU stands for Power Supply Unit. Quality and stability of the current delivered under load ensure good overclocking capabilities and reliability.
4) i got cpu-z and it's usable. interesting that under no load, the cpu is slowed down to 1.66 GHz...
If you want to get rid of this feature and use your computer always at full power, go to the bios and Disable "EIST". (in power menu I think).
Last edited by N&B on Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By deadalvs
#206372
ah that is the EIST !

thanks for the quick answers !!

super !
By numerobis
#206394
deadalvs wrote: 1) where can i find orthos and what does it do in these hours ?
as i postet above: http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm
orthos is a multicore optimized version of sp2004 ak prime95. As long as you let it run it calculates prime numbers and checks if there are any faults in the calculation. if everything is ok, the calculation runs until you stop it sometimes - if the calculation stops with a failure before >>> no stable system.
There are different settings to test system, cpu only, or ram only
deadalvs wrote: 2) what is psu ?? :) i'm not a computer pro ...
...sorry :oops: - as N&B explained, the power supply
can you give us the type and specs of it? to ensure it is capable to handle your system. has it two seperate 12v rails?
deadalvs wrote: 3) vcore is in bios and was taken by the app «core temp»
is there a difference between the value displayed in bios and coretemp? coretemp (or cpu-z) should be right one
deadalvs wrote: 4) i got cpu-z and it's usable. interesting that under no load, the cpu is slowed down to 1.66 GHz...
dont know if it is relevant in this case, but some people say that you should disable eist for ocing, if you alter the voltage. cause eist doesn't only lowers the ghz but also the vcore and if this is too much it could result in an unstable system. don't know, how quick the powersteps change and if this could be a problem during the render process.

to test it you can also disable eist in windows:

Under Control Panel – open Power Options
Under the Power Schemes pull down menu
To turn Enhanced Intel SpeedStep technology OFF select, “Always On,” power scheme
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