[deadalvs]

how conductive is dust .... ?

[Frances]

how conductive is dust .... ?

[John Layne]

Mineral oil is not conductive, so I've seen people with motherboards immersed completely in chilled mineral oil!!!!

I once thought about immersing a Motherboard in a Perfluorocarbon (link below) and refrigerating the CPU. I never did it, coward that I am. It would have been a interesting experiment. The biggest problem I could foresee was that of the differing rates of thermal expansion of the components.

3M™ Fluorinert™ Electronic Liquid FC-77
http://tinyurl.com/y9phlb

[michaelplogue]

I've read of folks successfully using fluorinert before (as in the link below). From what I recall, that stuff is very expensive - which is why most of the experiments you see use mineral water instead.

http://www.octools.com/index.cgi?caller ... rsion.html

[deadalvs]

this board here:
Intel 975XBX2KR (Bad Axe 2)

seems to be really oc-friendly, but has «only» 4 memory slots.

has anyone a recommendation of a top new board that has 8 slots and is as oc-friendly as this one ?

actually, does it matter which board i use to overclock anyway? i just read this one i mentioned, from intel, was «designed» for being oc-ed.

[deadalvs]

will there be any 2 GB sticks of DDR2-1066 (PC2-8500) RAM available soon ?

[-Adrian]

Bad Axe is a decent OCer but top of the line ASUS and DFi boards will probably perform better.

4 memory slots is normal for desktop mainboards, you'll only ever find 8 in server mainboards and those tend to be bad OCers.

You probably won't find 2GB modules above DDR2-667, hardly being produced, and definitely none that do 500Mhz.

[deadalvs]

these Zalman Reservators... do they have an «enclosed» circle, so one doesn't have to fill up fluid every second week ?

once such a system works, how much support is needed ?

[michaelplogue]

these Zalman Reservators... do they have an «enclosed» circle, so one doesn't have to fill up fluid every second week ?

once such a system works, how much support is needed ?

They are a completely sealed system - so you don't have to worry about evaporation or anything else. They can run pretty much forever without having to service them - though I don't know if the liquid additives break down over time. The only thing you would really need to worry about is if the pump stops working - in which case your motherboard will shut down automatically once it reaches the temperature limit you set from your BIOS.

Keep in mind that the Zalman Reserator does not get it's power from the computer - it has it's own power cord and switch. So if you turn off/on your computer, you need to make sure you turn on/off the pump as well.

[Mihai]

I think with the Reserator 2 this was solved, you can connect it so it's starts with your computer. It looks like a great system!

[deadalvs]

very nice !

[deadalvs]

beautiful colors !

http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/vie ... =reserator

[deadalvs]

is it a good idea also to include the GPU into the cycle ? would i then have to remove the fan somehow ?

any tips for that ? (of course, the graphics card model must be supported)

i think the cpu would profit (concerning cooling) when not another heat source were added to the cycle.

?

[Mihai]

Yes, but not by that much, plus the graphics card would be a lot cooler. Usually the fan on the graphics card make the most annoying noise. You would have to remove the supplied fan from the graphics card. Trickiest part is detaching it from the gpu, it's stuck with thermal compound pretty good....just twist the heatsink back and forth instead of trying to remove it in one go.

[numerobis]

yes, gpus are very good coolable by water. it depends on your videocard, but in most cases the gpu-fan is the loudest fan of the system - if there is no fan on the northbridge. But you can cool them both by water and enjoy the silence...
But as i said above, if you replace your gpu-cooler with a watercooler you should ensure that there is some slight aircooling for the capacitors and mosfets of the card - or select one of the special vga-coolers who cover the whole card. but these are mostly suitable only for one card, and if you buy a new card, you also need a new cooler.