[lllab]

Hi all,

i really would wish NL would count sockets for the license, like winxp does.

very soon all chips will have 2 or even 4cores, but as it alsways was 1 or 2 sockets.

win xp counts the sockets for its license. the same would be appropriate for other software i think.

cheers
stefan

[markps]

As said many times... I second to that..

It seems that the technology of 2 years ago when they came up with this core limit idea got by and when they release the software the reallity will be different.. 2 years ago we had the 3ghz and it seemed that we were going to 4ghz in a snap. But now it seems that 3ghz is close to the limit and a standard computer will always be multicore.

A dual-dual (2 dual processors) is a standard today for top of the line Worksation.. and the quald-dual is right arround the corner to become a standard. With the last week's AMD price slash things could come even faster.

So in one machine we'll need 2 licenses.. what doesn't make any sence what so ever.. With such a slow render engine.. it is unexcusable if they continue with this licensing practice.

[NicoR44]

Have you seen this?
http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/view ... hp?t=12048

[markps]

Yep... That's exactly what I'm talking about...

When this software releases (lets say in 6-12 months) the quad-dual will be a standard.. and two licenses will be needed to run on a single machine.. what is an absurd.

[lllab]

"Have you seen this?
http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/view ... hp?t=12048
_________________"

well thats exactly the problem:

when i bought maxwell i had a dual xeon this counted as 2 cpus which is ok.
(2 sockets)

2 years later i replaced my xeon woth a dual opteron 275(2 sockets but 4 cores) this is the only way today to get a faster machine than my 2year old yeon is. so for me the dual opteron is euivalent to the xeon.

BUT the opteron now tekes all my license!!! i cannot render anmore with my 2 other cpus !!! THATS VERY BAD!

i really think NL has to go with the Time and cout sockets inszead of cores.
dualcore is almost standard- for macusers it IS already a standard!

could someone from NL give a statement please how this will be adjusted to fit to the new cpus development.

cheers
stefan

edit:
it is a FACT that no cpus went higher than max 4 ghz since years now. so the cpus will get just more cores every year. in 2007 with 4 and 8 cores it will get even more dramatic....hope some understand.

[kivimaki]

I completely agree.

With the speed of processors now increasing in terms of cores instead of GHz, that fact that NextLimit is limiting the number of cores is synonymous to them limiting the clock speed.

[Kabe]

100% ACK.

It would be the only software staying slow while the rest of the competition
gets faster. This doesn't look like a smart move...

At the very least one license should cover one machine, until the current
max number of cores.

Kabe

[markps]

The main thing is that when they came up with this idea, the technology was different... right now the computers are evolving in muticores and NOT in speed.

Since they've taken so long to release the software, they have to keep up with the technolgoy. They can't stay behind.

[Thomas An.]

Agree 100%. Per-socket is the way to go.