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AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:45 pm
by gotoxy av-media
Hello community,

i am having trouble using the MatID-channel for compositing, because the AA is different in Alpha vs. MaterialID.
Usually i`m assigning pure colors (RED,GREEN,BLUE) to get a multicolored Mask-channel, but due to the difference in AA with these thin lines - it doesn`t work properly!
In my opinion AA should be identical in all channels...is it a bug?

best regards
munch
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Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:41 am
by renbry
wild guess - - perhaps the matIDs need to be gamma'ed up (2.2) before use.

The gamma will change the mid-point of the luminance curve and might be the difference between the images.

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:26 pm
by gotoxy av-media
thanks for the hint renbry - but this doesn`t work :?

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:15 pm
by Half Life
You might want to try different settings for the Sharpness (under Tone Mapping) -- it may be that the one output is being filtered and the other not.

Best,
Jason.

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:52 pm
by gotoxy av-media
thanks half life,

but no success!

...looks like sharpness has no effect on the MatID-channel...
but i can make the Alpha look more jaggy :roll: this is not what i want...i want the MatID to look like the smooth Alpha...

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:08 pm
by gotoxy av-media
hello next limit team,
please tell me why they doesn`t match!

is it a known limitation?

best regards
munch

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:05 am
by zdeno
You have to be more like Ernesto to receive any answer ;)

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:32 am
by Ernesto
I have noted the same, but I thought that it was due to the file format.
The default file setting for Alpha channel is PNG16 but the default setting for material id or object id is PNG8.
I haven´t tried changing all the channels to PNG16 yet, but I would expect it to solve this issue.

Ernesto

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:37 am
by bograt
zdeno wrote:You have to be more like Ernesto to receive any answer ;)
:lol:

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:48 am
by bograt
Ernesto wrote:I have noted the same, but I thought that it was due to the file format.
The default file setting for Alpha channel is PNG16 but the default setting for material id or object id is PNG8.
I haven´t tried changing all the channels to PNG16 yet, but I would expect it to solve this issue.

Ernesto
I wondered the same but seeing as your screen is 8bit you should see no difference, Mat ID must be calculated differently.
I too would love to know why this occurs... In fact there is still so much I would love to know about how antialiasing works in Maxwell

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:05 pm
by gotoxy av-media
no matter what depth i`m using 8 or 16bit...the AA differs...this makes the usage of MatId/ObjID for postproduction pretty useless :cry:
the only workaround to get a proper mask is to render all objects needed as a seperate alpha-pass...

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:09 pm
by gotoxy av-media
hello next-limit team,

if it is no limitation, would you please tell me what i did wrong?
...and how to get useful mat/obj-id that doesn`t differ in AA?!
...or what is the intention of these channels?

thank you

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:49 pm
by gotoxy av-media
4 weeks since the first post and approx 500 views, but no answer from NL!

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:06 pm
by numerobis
I think no answer is an answer... ;)

Re: AntiAliasing differs in Alpha vs MatID

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:10 am
by zdeno
You have to insult few people to get something ... it is checked many times.

shy and modest are not supposed to get answers fast.