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									Weird pattern
					Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:40 pm
					by Tan Boon Meng
					Hi all,
I have an issue with my render, i have tried uninstalling and reinstalled the softwares, even changing the textures and scenes. Another step i did was to change the rendering size, and they responded differently with the weird patterns appearing somewhere else! In the end, i changed the computer! and yes it solved the problem. So my question is, why Maxwell responded to different machine?
The computer that i have problem with is 
- Quad core Intel Xeon 2.93GHz
- Dual 512Mb nVidai Quadro FX580
- 24GB 1333MHz Ram
And the computer that has no error is
- Quad core Intel Xeon 2.5GHz
- 768Mb nVidia Quadro FX4600
- 16GB 667MHz Ram
Anyone experienced this before?
Im a Lightwave User, Both systems run on Windows XP 64bits. Using Maxwell 2.01
Some patterns were very obvious and is circular shape. This current one is in parallel bars (is clearer if you see it at a distance)

 
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:48 pm
					by macray
					have you ever let it render for a longer time to have the effect more visible or disappear?
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:51 pm
					by Tan Boon Meng
					oh yes.. that was just a test to see if the pattern still exists on that spot. i have one rendered overnight... all smooth and clean only the part that has weird patterns appear even more clearer.. but i accidentally deleted it so i cant show you.
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:23 pm
					by Fernando Tella
					Is it not a dimmed reflection on the ground?
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:37 pm
					by Bubbaloo
					It would be good if you can let one render overnight again. It's common to see patterns in the noise at low S.L. I can't really comment until I see a high S.L. version.
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:35 pm
					by Tan Boon Meng
					Sure will do a render soon so we have a better image to discuss about.
Anyway i tested on another machine, is fine too. The specs are
- 2.53GHz
- Dual 512Mb nVidia Quadro FX580
- 12GB Ram
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:43 pm
					by itsallgoode9
					I'm interested to see what comes out of this...I've been noticing some patterning in my renders with 2.0 as well.  Mine are usually grid shaped though, not circular.
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:57 am
					by Tan Boon Meng
					Sorry to keep you guys waiting... finally have the chance to do an overnight render. Here is the result, now instead of circular, is in grid squarish repeated patterns. Now the wierd thing is, im using the computer that all the while not giving me problem. Again, this is still not as serious as the one earlier which i deleted accidentally.. but i think this is good enough to show what i meant.

 
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:59 am
					by zdeno
					it must be face of GOD of CG ! unbiased one 

 
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:31 pm
					by polynurb
					what type of lighting are you using? maybe image based?
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:39 am
					by Tan Boon Meng
					Hi Polynurb, im not using image (HDR) as lighting. Is lid up using normal plane (4 points polygon) with emitter.
Hi itsallgoode9, care to tell us your experience as well?
The pattern appeared from left all the way to the right, a bar. Sometimes in a single render there are 2 bars with a wide gap between them.
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:44 am
					by polynurb
					well patters are not new in maxwell, and i have seen them in previous versions, but in 99% of the cases you will only see them early in the render/ at low SL.
My last project i used big HDRs and i couldn't be asked to scale them down (they worked fine before)... threr was a pattern at low SL in the Render channel, which disappeared.
Interestingly it stayed in the Z-Channel i rendered out. it was very obvious, and i thought it might have been to using large hdr for illumination.
I am on laptop now, ... far away from my desk and files and work 
 
i'll post it once i get back.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:55 am
					by itsallgoode9
					Tan Boon Meng wrote:Sorry to keep you guys waiting... finally have the chance to do an overnight render. Here is the result, now instead of circular, is in grid squarish repeated patterns. Now the wierd thing is, im using the computer that all the while not giving me problem. Again, this is still not as serious as the one earlier which i deleted accidentally.. but i think this is good enough to show what i meant.

 
that's exactlly what I have run into on a couple random occasions...it seems to show up on flat surfaces and will never clear
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:41 pm
					by polynurb
					from the z channel

 
							 
			
					
									Re: Weird pattern
					Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:51 pm
					by zdeno
					it is not bug it must be a feature !
but seriously - mayby this phenomenon appears because of some error in hdr file ?