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Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:31 am
by Brett Morgan
Ok a fair question I think, I'm curious because I'm only a hobbyist and do the 3d stuff in my spare time, I have been quoting per job seems easier and the client knows what he's up for, but it usually takes longer to model than I calculate, how do you guys go about this? Does it get easier to quote? I don't want to over charge my clients as I only have one at the moment (I believe the term is "don't bite the hand that feeds you"), but we all have to make a living :D

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:40 pm
by sandykoufax
Nope, be careful. Clients should not know the render is faster than before. :lol:
Maxwell Render 2 is not free for upgrade, you should paid for it. So you dont need to charge less. :o
If render is faster, you just can deliver faster and better image to clients. That's all benefits for them. :P

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:29 pm
by glebe digital
IMO you pass on the savings, providing you already have a solid costing structure in the first place.

I charge 'bum on seat time' and 'rendertime'......so if I was buying-in to v2, the faster rendertime would translate to lower cost.
Better value for your client, more return jobs.........better for you [you're onto the next job quicker].....everyone wins.

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:46 pm
by GTJC460
The upgrade wasn't free. Why give away its benefits??

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:14 pm
by m-Que
If with V2 you now eat less, pay for the flat less, your car uses less gasoline, then go ahead.

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:18 pm
by jc4d
And your talent is less?

Cheers
JC

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:32 pm
by kami
I don't ever charge render times ... they don't cost me anything except for the power

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:11 pm
by Brett Morgan
Yeah, you make some good points guys, thank you :wink:

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:32 pm
by brodie_geers
I'd also make sure you think about how much time faster renders will actually save you. This depends a lot on your workflow. For example, for me faster renders don't mean my work gets done quicker, instead it simply means better quality. That's because I do test renders throughout the day but I always do my final renders right before I leave at 5pm. Whatever they look like at 8am the next morning is the final. So I'd weigh out what your client will be getting. Will he be getting the renderings quicker? Will the renderings be better? Will you put in fewer hours? I don't think any of those answers solves the problem but they might help you make a decision. It might also be a good idea to leave the price alone for awhile and see how those things turn out. It's much easier to lower it later if you want but it's difficult to raise it if you only have one client atm.

-Brodie

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:52 pm
by numerobis
brodie_geers wrote:...leave at 5pm. ...
WOW! :shock: 8)
this is nearly midday... :shock:

:lol:

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:12 am
by brodie_geers
hehe...working for an architectural firm has spoiled me :) I still put in a good amount of OT but it's nothing like architecture studio in school or what the freelancers probably go through.

-Brodie

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:30 pm
by Duncan
If your client is getting the images faster charge him more :)

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:24 pm
by shen.de
I would charge the same ... the client is paying the pictures he get's irrelevant what rendetimes stands behind it...

he wants a good picture and I think he doesn't give a fuck if it rendered 2 days or 2hrs... if you use a render which needs that long it's not his problem - it's yours ;)

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:27 pm
by Michael Betke
Haha. Nice one. :mrgreen:

I do not charge rendertimes too. The power-consumtion is included in my hourly rates.

Re: Maxwell Render 2 is faster, do I charge clients less?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:23 pm
by Francis Bernier
Your clients should only be interested in quality. Your job is to sell that to them for a X$ price. They don't to be aware of render times, or BSDF layers, Nd numbers, ior files ... :)