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NEW Cnemaxwell extremely slow ?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:43 pm
by arch4d
just tried the new re-released cinemaxwell 0.7b,
and for me it lasts about 5 minutes to fire up the render engine.

with the last plugin, same scene, about 20 seconds to fire up the engine.

anyone else has got this ?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:50 pm
by goncalo
Yes i think is more slow then beta release...

At this point i don´t know what to do , buy a Mac G5 quad just for render, buy more memory ? I don´t know ... i´m very sad with all this situation.

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:51 pm
by arch4d
no, no, i didn´t mean compared to the beta plugin...

compared to the one released jan 17th...

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:55 pm
by macray
I think the difference for me is:

once upon a time (with the old engine) when the gui was there very fast, but it took long to present the first pic.

now it takes a long while to start the gui, but the picture is presented faster.

So there is almost no difference when the first picture is presented.
Anyone else shares my opinion?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:59 pm
by goncalo
arch4d wrote:no, no, i didn´t mean compared to the beta plugin...

compared to the one released jan 17th...

sorry i thought that... for me is the 1st release of RC5 (mac)

but i think is more slow then beta, but i´m not sure of this, but i leave a render yesterday and when i arrive today in the office still in 10 sl, and in beta at that time maybe was on 14 sl ? i don´t know, i´m not sure what i´m telling, could be wrong my statement.

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:22 pm
by macray
SL is calculated different between Beta and RC. So the result is what counts.

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:34 pm
by goncalo
But what you guys think about the speed?

Is more faster then the beta?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:17 pm
by Kabe
I guess that depends on the kind of scene. RC5 for shure doesn't feel faster for me, even slower in some aspects, but on the other hand the materials are much more elaborate.

I still hope we get out a bit more speed, but actually I'm less concerned about speed than workflow. I have time to render but not much time to setup :D

Kabe

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:05 am
by goncalo
Yes Kabe i understand you

But i have i don´t have much time to setup and for the render :D

One question, You are using the MXstudio at the moment, or keep using the plugin ?

Because i didn´t invest so much much time on the studio... i´m still using the RC5 on the plugin on C4D.

I work on Archicad I export to C4D and there is easy for me to setup everything, i use C4D long time ago, many years, so is easy and quickly.

When i export to Studio, i have a lot of trouble to select the objects to have that material, and we are architects we work with big buildings, with many materials and many many many objects in the same scene. In cinema 4D is very easy to select all objects of concrete for example, or all objects for wood. In studio i have to import from C4D or From Archicad, objects from only one material, if i have one project with 20 diferent materials i have to import to the scene 20 times to the same scene.

Well i´m curios to know if your are only using the studio. Maybe i invest to work with studio and leave the plugin behind.

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:20 am
by spekoun
I am not sure, i understand well.
Exporting scene with Cinemaxwell is extremely slow. When you connect objects with seme material, it will be much faster.
Rendering is not fster then beta. For sure. Maybe slowlier in interior scenes lit by sun...

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:38 am
by Kabe
goncalo wrote:One question, You are using the MXstudio at the moment, or keep using the plugin ?
I'm using the plugin mostly. However, MXMs are not supported in the mac
version, so I have to adjust it in Studio for date, assign materials.

I would suggest not to put much energy in learning Studio with the
exception of the Material creation part. There are miles between the
usability of Cinema and Studio even if you get accustomed to Studio.
Don't get me started...

Kabe

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:32 pm
by goncalo
Thanks Kabe

Was that the opinion i like to ear.

I think in the same way.

:wink:

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:22 pm
by Becco_UK
Writing the mxs file and firing up the render engine seems slower but not that much.

As for render speed I personally find it faster but then again I haven't done a large interior with lots of indirect lighting - here I understand that RC5 is possibly slower.

I don't think anyone would seriously consider buying Maxwell if speed was the prime reason for the purchase. I bought into Maxwell for image quality and of course, the atractive pre order price (which has become less attractive from the very slow development).

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:34 pm
by goncalo
Becco_UK wrote: ...I don't think anyone would seriously consider buying Maxwell if speed was the prime reason for the purchase. I bought into Maxwell for image quality and of course, ....
Yes I agree with you, I bought Maxwell for the result of the images, the light, is very helpfully for us architects for testing the light inside the space, ... for me is the best. But you know, for testing, is very slow, and time is money, we live in a rush time... So the time to make a render is very very important.. and the clients don´t want to wait. I also think to buy one G5 QUAD just for render in maxwell ... because i get crazy with the time maxwell spent to render...

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:58 pm
by goncalo
...well a simple test 120 minuts

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