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First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:37 pm
by ASyme
Hi guys-

Just bought Maxwell thanks to the awesome recent promotion. Really liking this renderer a lot. Here's my first image I made this week.

Image


Thoughts?

Thanks much. Back to figuring out those materials.

Alec

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:19 pm
by zdeno
looks great ... Yes I do hate You

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:12 am
by Mihai
Obviously no newbie to rendering :) Looks great for a first attempt. Some thinSSS on the plants would look nice, and some variation in the leaf colors. I'd be interested to hear more of your thoughts actually....what you think were the most difficult parts to adapt in the thinking, moving from other more "traditional" render engines.

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:57 am
by ASyme
Mihai wrote:Obviously no newbie to rendering :) Looks great for a first attempt. Some thinSSS on the plants would look nice, and some variation in the leaf colors. I'd be interested to hear more of your thoughts actually....what you think were the most difficult parts to adapt in the thinking, moving from other more "traditional" render engines.
Your are correct. Certainly no newbie to rendering. I've been doing this since 1992. 20 years! My shop is cinema 4d (beta testers since 1999) and Vray. Do love the Vray. Here's my company www.fuseanimation.com

So, my thoughts are I really like the realism of this renderer. I think i can make the most realistic renders with this. I like the real world attributes. Its just like photography. Unforutunately, photography was never my thing. I sort of get it though, so its coming easily. The materials are something I'm trying to get used to. But it's making sense now after a week.

FIRE is so important. Works well, although, if it was GPU instead of CPU it would be even more real time. How about using both? That would rule.

One thing that blows is crummy Open GL display and crappy texture mapping display. Just like Vray. They should fix this. I hate that.

Another thing, why do I have to login every single time I want to download a texture? Super weird.

Other than these things I'm sold. Love the look of this renderer. It's brilliant. I will use this when I can render overnight every time. Also, Multilight? Seriously? How cool is that? Awesome.

Alec

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:11 pm
by Mihai
Thanks for the feedback.
FIRE is so important. Works well, although, if it was GPU instead of CPU it would be even more real time. How about using both? That would rule.
Well in essence that would mean porting the entire engine not just FIRE, since it is really a *version* of the render engine which takes care of calculating easier things first which is also why it's not so good at previewing caustics. In theory both FIRE and production settings will converge to the same result, but for the main render FIRE can actually take longer if any caustics or low roughness materials are in the scene.
One thing that blows is crummy Open GL display and crappy texture mapping display. Just like Vray. They should fix this. I hate that.
You mean in C4D?
Another thing, why do I have to login every single time I want to download a texture? Super weird.
You shouldn't need to do that...do you mean on the website or through the plugin or Studio? You can connect to the gallery directly from the C4D plugin, you just have to enter your login info in MXED (Maxwells standalone material editor). You can find more info here:

http://support.nextlimit.com/display/kn ... allery+FAQ

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:21 pm
by ASyme
One thing that blows is crummy Open GL display and crappy texture mapping display. Just like Vray. They should fix this. I hate that.


You mean in C4D?


No, I mean the display of texture maps in general. First of all I can't see materials really at all even with OpenGL. Everything is just a shade or color. Secondly, I I need to map something say, cylindrically the map display stays a box. So I have to do a render just to see how something is mapped. Does this make sense? It's a little maddening.

Thanks
Alec

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:37 pm
by sandykoufax
Very nice start! :D

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:50 pm
by Mihai
ASyme wrote:One thing that blows is crummy Open GL display and crappy texture mapping display. Just like Vray. They should fix this. I hate that.


You mean in C4D?


No, I mean the display of texture maps in general. First of all I can't see materials really at all even with OpenGL. Everything is just a shade or color. Secondly, I I need to map something say, cylindrically the map display stays a box. So I have to do a render just to see how something is mapped. Does this make sense? It's a little maddening.

Thanks
Alec
But in which application?........ In Maxwell Studio?

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:55 pm
by ASyme
Mihai wrote:
ASyme wrote:One thing that blows is crummy Open GL display and crappy texture mapping display. Just like Vray. They should fix this. I hate that.


You mean in C4D?


No, I mean the display of texture maps in general. First of all I can't see materials really at all even with OpenGL. Everything is just a shade or color. Secondly, I I need to map something say, cylindrically the map display stays a box. So I have to do a render just to see how something is mapped. Does this make sense? It's a little maddening.

Thanks
Alec
But in which application?........ In Maxwell Studio?
Oh, sorry, yes Cinema. It's just like Vray. No meaningful way to see the textures in the viewport while working. And no real way to see how things are mapped. It makes is a guessing game while texturing things.

Alec

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:04 am
by rickyinmotion
i see your problem and this the solution
in the shader window after you double clic in the mat tab, under the shader view on the right, clic and you can choose what you want to see in the c4d viewport :)

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:15 am
by Mihai
He should be happy to read that :mrgreen:

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:33 pm
by ASyme
rickyinmotion wrote:i see your problem and this the solution
in the shader window after you double clic in the mat tab, under the shader view on the right, clic and you can choose what you want to see in the c4d viewport :)
OK, I don't think I'm being clear. Picture is worth a thousand words, right? If you look at this jpeg, this is about as much visual feedback I'm getting in my viewport. For example, it's really hard to map that hardwood floor without being able to see it in the viewport. Test, render, test render, etc. Is there a check box I'm missing?

Thanks
Alec

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4063/capturewqp.jpg

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:51 pm
by mashium123
it's that little icon you need to click. there, one can choose which of the used textures should be visible in the c4d-viewport.
you will need to click/choose twice (at least i do). the first click does not change anything. the second one does.
Image

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:11 pm
by eric nixon
the first click does not change anything. the second one does.
Happens first time here.

Re: First rendering with Maxwell

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:23 pm
by rickyinmotion
Thanks mashium123 for the screen capture.
Image is much better than my poor english :lol:
If your texture channel is not empty no need to double click :)