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Wine bottle...
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:34 am
by RonB
Hello,
Just finished this for a brochure. Modeled in Lightwave, rendered in Maxwell.
Used a PShelf bottle and glass as models but completely re-built them.
HDRI image for lighting and reflections...love the little caustic that showed up.
Cheers, RonB

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:48 am
by ivox3
Nice work Ron ...
The close-up ..... real nice. The group shot, .. maybe maybe could of used a few hotter highlights .... Pretty shot.
edit: the highlights tend to increase the quality of the glass too ... ie, in terms of realism.
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:43 am
by mgroeteke
excellent! - just 2 remarks: a pinot grigio has generally a more pale colour, nearly white (btw: grigio in italian means gray). the cork looks like one of the plastic kind, which is ok so far, but then the screwdriver would not create show such cracks.
but really: consider those remarks as nitpicking!
cheers
markus
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:42 pm
by simmsimaging
Good job - although I agree about the cork.
Chris is also sright though - it could maybe use a bit more contrast in the lighting (more in the single bottle shot), but nice overall.
b
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:11 pm
by RonB
Thanks for all your comments guys, I appreciate and learn from them.
mgroeteke - I did the bottle and wine color and just grabbed the first white wine type label that I could use...I will be more careful in the future...but for what it's worth, the client loved it anyway.
The cork has texture that gets lost at this low resolution. At print res the texture makes it look more like a real cork, even so it could be better.
Thanks again.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:19 pm
by ivox3
One other thing Ron, .. either the transmittance or Ref90 needs adjusted for the wine glass. It really shouldn't have much, if any grey, but lean towards white or clear. ... a simple adjustment.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:51 pm
by RonB
Hi Ivo - Thanks for the tip. You know I really have not learned Maxwell as much as I should for the amount of time I've owned it. For me it's still sort of daunting and laborious. I see examples of other's work and I am in awe of their knowledge of the program, especially lighting and of course materials. For instance, I have been trying to grab ahold of displacement and sss to produce an ice cream cone. Been working at it for 5 days now and it still looks like tree bark and plaster. For me it's such a slooow process working with the material editor. That's not a criticism of the program but of me.
Consequently, when I do work with Maxwell I tend to settle for a good render rather than an excellent one. I need to get over it, pay more attention to details and just do it.
Hmm, I think I was talking to myself here as much as you. I feel better now, thanks.
Ron

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:54 pm
by bjorn.syse
it's beatiful, very good work!
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:40 am
by sandykoufax
Great!. I really like the left image.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:39 pm
by Mihai
Beautiful work!

Perhaps it could have used a little different lighting setup for the second shot, to get more transparent glass together with some highlights.
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:12 pm
by Mr Whippy
RonB wrote:Hi Ivo - Thanks for the tip. You know I really have not learned Maxwell as much as I should for the amount of time I've owned it. For me it's still sort of daunting and laborious. I see examples of other's work and I am in awe of their knowledge of the program, especially lighting and of course materials. For instance, I have been trying to grab ahold of displacement and sss to produce an ice cream cone. Been working at it for 5 days now and it still looks like tree bark and plaster. For me it's such a slooow process working with the material editor. That's not a criticism of the program but of me.
Consequently, when I do work with Maxwell I tend to settle for a good render rather than an excellent one. I need to get over it, pay more attention to details and just do it.
Hmm, I think I was talking to myself here as much as you. I feel better now, thanks.
Ron

Materials are daunting.
One part that stops me more than anything is appropriate IOR's for materials. I can get the general look down quite well, but the IOR choice seems to be the hardest time I have.
Could do with a library of IOR's for rougher materials, as the change is still noticeable up near 75 roughness, which your cork material for example may need tweaking to just make it look that bit more real.
Dave
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:40 pm
by RonB
Thanks again for all of your comments...they are well taken.
I am re-doing both images and will try to change the lighting on the second. I found the wine color is more an older chardonnay so that means I should probably change the shape bottle too.
Cheers, Ron
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:39 pm
by jotero
WOW.... 
very beautiful photos
ciao
torolf