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Ballet

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:51 am
by a.behrens
Hello,

i would like to create my own WIP Thread for a project "ballet hall". If it has been finished it shall show some ballet stuff. But for now I'm fighting to get the ballet hall right.

Attached some pictures.

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An obviously problem is the wall paint. It shall look like my wives study (a reference picture is the picture with my son), but i don't get it right. :-)

Other problems are those shiny marble busts and the door wood.

Feedback welcome.

Re: Ballet

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:37 am
by Mihai
It looks like your wall texture has a lot more contrast and hue differences than the image reference. The reference has much more subtle differences in hues.

Re: Ballet

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:45 am
by a.behrens
Small update:

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Fixed the blotchy wall paint, the shiny marble and the curtains. Its now much better. The walls rainbow coating exists in really too but is lesser intensiv.

@Mihai: Yepp. I want to use the new procedural textures but the previews looks often very different to the high quality render.

Re: Ballet

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:40 am
by Mihai
One tip would be: Things in real life are often more reflective than you think :wink: Almost nothing is lambert or almost lambert overall.

Re: Ballet

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:32 pm
by hatts
Great job on the curtains, I think overall the lighting in the scene is nearly finished.
The mirror could use some imperfections/unevenness

Re: Ballet

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:46 pm
by a.behrens
hatts wrote:Great job on the curtains, I think overall the lighting in the scene is nearly finished.
The mirror could use some imperfections/unevenness
@Mihai+hatts: I Thank you for your feedback.

@hatts: In generall: The entire setup lacks imperfections. I know :cry: . About the mirrors: I made some intensive examinations. Via google as well as in reality. Google for example: https://www.google.de/search?q=balletts ... 80&bih=849

Theoretical a mirror could be bend in a small angle. But in reality a bended mirror is usually close to a smashed mirror. I tried to change the angle of the mirror installation itself. But such an angle is nearly invisible for small degrees or looks strange for larger degrees.

What I found in reality is that most mirrors are usually spotless clean, sometimes with fingerprints and have very seldom small cracks. And that I'm going to add: Some fingerprints around breast height, some foodprint and maybe a crack on the last mirror piece.

The mirrors are simple planes now. I wonder how the mirrors do look like if I make them out of real solid glass with a depth of around 3-5mm and a metalic mirror on the backside. I expect to get some caustics and irrelugar reflections.

Re: Ballet

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:14 pm
by hatts
Making "real" mirrors will not change the look that much, I believe, and probably aren't worth it. Typically you don't usually see a reflection on the top clear glass and[/] on the mirror, you just see straight through to the mirror.

The imperfections I meant would be something like slight warping at the edges, or very subtle dust or smudges.

But, you can probably skip that stuff and instead do a more important tweak: the mirror should very slightly have a tint. After all, the light loses energy bouncing off the mirror.

This photo demonstrates the slight darkening of a mirror.
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Re: Ballet

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:59 pm
by a.behrens
@Matthew: Oh, I understand.

For now I changed the mirror like this:
- Mirrors are solid now. With a 5mm body of glass. The differences are visible in close ups only. In close ups the edges have a nice light diffraction effect.
- The mirror backside is a silver plane, rendered with silver(nk).

I also added light switches, electrificity sockets and some furnitures.

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Ballet von tukguck

Re: Ballet

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:03 pm
by a.behrens
My wife gave me an interesting feedback: The room looks more like a place to make holiday. But the beauty of ballet lies from the dancer not in the place.

Here are some doodles I made in the very beginning:

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image von tukguck
image von [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/115845575@N04/]