[Micha]

Hallo,

I ask me, if I render a design object from other companies like a coca cola can with the original texture or a watch with the original clock face, do I harm copyrights? Here an example of a watch based on a watch from Nomos, is this ok to show it on a web gallery or not?

[Maximus3D]

I have no idea about that, but since just about everyone do it and the companies get free promotion for their products as you use their logotype or whatever then i don't think they can complain much. It wouldn't make much sense to complain if you get your products freely promoted online by people not on their payroll.

/ Max

[Micha]

... the problem could be, if the CG artist have changed a detail without knowledge and the original desginer would cry, if he see the new object. Maybe, he says: >>if somebody see this, he must think, "ohh ugly design, I will never buy this"<<.
For example, I see now I have forget the small wheel for changing the time.

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[Maximus3D]

Ahh yes that's ofcourse true too, if you change the model you deviate from the original design but then again when you're reproducing something in 3d then you can't always get a 100% exact match both in scale and detail. Or you write in a sidenote in your work that it's not fully accurate and not a exact reproduction of the original so you won't make the designers cry a river.

Perhaps you could just add credits and copyrights to the original author of the model you use as your reference and any logotypes used in the scene so you got that part covered.

/ Max

[tom]

Very nice render!

[RonB]

Unless you have specific permission from the owner of the copyright, it is illegal for you to use any copyrighten property, in anyway, period.

Cheers, Ron

[Micha]

I see, it seems to be difficult. Every bauhaus chair in the rendering could bring problems, but I hope, the maxwell gallery is not a reason for a sue. But, I will write a sidenote with the sources allways in the future. Thanks for yours suggestions.

Tom, thank you for comment. I hope to get it perfect in some days.

[Kabe]

The interesting thing here is copyright, the major thing might in such an example is branding though.

If you use the brand name of a product - i.e. Nomos -, you might damage the brand. Without permission you don't have the right to use it - not even privately.

Things become much more complicated when modeling a chair. There is no copyright on the "general image" or the "design" of the chair in an image - building a chair in real life would be a different story!

It might be a brand on it's own, but things get really fuzzy here. I know a couple of people who have had problems using brands/trademarks without authorisation - I don't know a single example of a case where a virtual redesign was a problem.

Kabe

[Mihai]

How about if I draw a picture of a Harley, print it on a t-shirt and sell them?
Just the picture, no mention of brand.

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[rivoli]

sad but true, they even allowed me to connect to the internet to check the announcements section every friday night, perfectly knowing there won't be any update till october. how cruel is this? just because of a bunch of barely resembling eames' chairs.

[Becco_UK]

I suppose if in doubt check with the company concerned. Probably comes down to the context of how the 'brand' is depicted.

[Kabe]

...well, if you film a porn flic on a Mercedes, they can't so too much about it.

They might try anyway though, which could be nad enough...

Kabe