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Objects blurring behind glass

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:53 am
by Duncan
Is this a bug ? or does Maxwell need another 5 days to render to clear up the blurring ? Also if anyone has any tips on speeding up this scene or making it look better, I would be very gratefull.

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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:59 am
by rivoli
yes, it's a bug:

http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1582

by the way, really really good looking render.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:06 am
by Duncan
Thanks Rivoli,
I thought I had seen some mentioned the blurred glass thing but couldn't find a post for it.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:43 am
by Hervé
excellent....

how to improve it...mmmmm, I would change the color of outside wall... that beige really does not do it for an outside... and the floor also...

you could use some dark "thick floor slates" for the terrasse...

an idea... make the sky background more brightness

- another painting or small sculpture on the right top corner of the bedroom

- change that too simple light above the outside table.. put an elegant easy to model plexiglass chandelier (google a bit)

- some half way down Miniblinds for the bedroom...

- reduce intensity of the 2 lamps that are outside on each side of the bedroom...

put a piece of branch tree near the camera (that is going to be totally out of focus, it will look like someone is looking actually and it will bring more depth...

Change the paintings, put two small ones (or even 3 or 4) on the wall behind bed...

maybe a small barbecue...

close the window of the bedroom please... caution... moskitos attack !
My wife would kill you for that... he he..


These are jut a few ideas...

Keep up the real nice work you do..... :wink:

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:43 am
by beppeg
Great render Duncan :) I would like to see it without the red arrows when you will resolve the glass problem, I really like the nights shots :)

@Harve: I think that the colour of the walls it's white, the "beige" it's the colour temperature of the light, maybe A or cool-white :?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:02 pm
by daros
I had the same problem in the first renderings i post in this forum.
http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/view ... t=concrete
It's a strange bug.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:56 pm
by Duncan
Thanks guys,
Herve, hopefully I'll get time to do some of your suggestions.
Its a project I just finished for a client, I wanted to put some floor boards in and some downlights outside but the client said it was too expensive.
bit of a bummer. but I'll make the adjust for myself.

Heres the website we just finished for the project.
http://www.rainbowsea.com.au
Theres more renders there, I'll add them to my gallery soon.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:18 pm
by daros
5 day for a rendering!
some times i think only I have clients that always want the work for after tomorrow...
In italy that's normal. Clients decide in the last moment wat they want. But now i'm working much more autside from italy and i was hoping architects in UK or Germany or France are much more organized. but no! Most times they arrive and want two minutes of animation in 4 days! Or architects are crazy i think or i'm not luky.
:twisted:

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:32 pm
by Hervé
or wrong clients Daros...

... In france, all nice big projects are in-house stuff... (NDA) and the nice stuff is in the hands of hand drawing people.. from a long time... it does changes... but I suspect soon, there will be so many people doing previz... prices and fees are going to crash down... and this is no good news...

Yes today they want it fast... most of time the previz is not included in the project, and they do it just because at the last minute, they are not sure.... at least here... or when the project is shit, for adding "value"

I had one archi-man lately.. (they think they are the smart asses, when they're not..) he takes one hour to place a line in autocad.. but when HE's finished, HE wants a previz for "yesterday"... I said go to hell... :x

Duncan, I've looked at your site... very cool... he he in Luxembourg, appartments like this are sold overnight... no previz needed unfortunatly... :wink:

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:49 am
by Duncan
Herve,
I guess here in Oz we have more land that hasn't been developed yet.
I'm sure these babies will be worth a small fortune in the near future.

I was pretty lucky this time round, the client was telling me how much of rush he was in and at this stage I was still waiting for the plans from the architect. The architect took a month or 2 to come up with the finals. So when the client wanted the viz, another week or 2 wasn''t such a big deal.
We do get the odd rush job and theres no way I'd do them in Maxwell, well not yet, maybe when it gets faster. Keep the rush jobs with vray.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:00 am
by sms
Clients, clients - who is talking about clients? Where is the relationship between Maxwell (Render times) and your clients? :wink: 8) :lol: No clients any more :wink:

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:53 am
by daros
ok sms.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:00 am
by Hervé
Land of Oz.... very magical indeed... he he. I hear you Duncan...

I was talking to an archi-man yesterday, and he loved what I was doing , but told me right away that he'll never do that for his houses...

he said... "the more details and lighting quality you show to the client, the more peaky they become... so he shows some vague direct archicad renders.... and he said this way, they cannot come to me saying, the wood of the facade does not look like what we saw... he said it is dangerous to give such renders to the clients....

this is the first time I hear that... !!! Archi-men are terrible... he he... :wink:

OK Daros.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:38 pm
by sms
Agree with Hervé. Couldn't add anything else :lol: 8) :wink:

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:58 pm
by daros
i know too a few architects like your's. But normally they expect realism.
All our clients love the Maxwell quality.

PS
some one says it's difficult to use Maxwell for production but i think it's not true. If we see a project that could be switched to Maxwell we simply speak before with the client and if hi likes the quality we tell him the few limitations and if hi agree we put the limitations in the contract. That's all.