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sss test

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:02 pm
by Dane
Testing the sss parameters. Block is 3 x 3 x 0,5 m, so it is a fairly large piece of transparent material ;-)
Nd = 1,6
Lightbeam is created with a small emitter inside a reflecting parabola, thereby achieving an almost collimated beam.

abs 0,1 scatter 0,1
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abs 0,1 scatter 0,5
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abs 0,1 scatter 1
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abs 0,5 scatter 0,1
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abs 0,5 scatter 0,5
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abs 0,5 scatter 1
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abs 1 scatter 0,1
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abs 1 scatter 0,5
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abs 1 scatter 1
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Dane

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:04 pm
by thxraph
nice tests ;) usefull

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:37 pm
by Thomas An.
Very nice !

Thank you for these tests :)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:59 am
by sandykoufax
Very nice tests, thank you very much!!!

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:36 am
by Tim Ellis
Very useful tests. Thankyou.

Tim.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:04 am
by 3dtrialpractice
what is bsdf properties and emmiter property? (strength)


thanks for this nice post showing results of sss settings!

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:43 am
by Olivier Cugniet
i'd like too to know which settings you used :P

great tests :!: :D

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:55 am
by Fernando Tella
Bookmarked for sss creation. Thank you!

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:56 am
by Dane
Thank you all.
what is bsdf properties and emmiter property? (strength)
The sss abs and scatter coeeficients are written above each image. The material is a single layer bsdf with subsurface added holding Nd =1,6 and all reflectance and transmittance values as high as possible

The emitter is 25 Lumen (Orange)
The parabola is a smooth 20 Nd single layer .

Cheers Dane

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:13 am
by abgrafx3d
Very cool tests! Thanks for info.

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:45 pm
by sandykoufax
Hi Dane.

I have one question.

In your test, ab =1 is largest scale.

but in the maxwell material editor, we can raise up to 1000.

then, what is that mean?

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:58 pm
by Thomas An.
sandykoufax wrote:Hi Dane.

I have one question.
In your test, ab =1 is largest scale.
but in the maxwell material editor, we can raise up to 1000.
then, what is that mean?
The block can become even darker (until it is black).
Absorbance completely replaces attenuation when SSS is turned on.

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:32 am
by sandykoufax
Hi Thomas, thanks for answer.

But I'm still not clear.

What is the unit of the Absorption param?

I thought that scattering param is based on percentage(0~1.00).

However, absorption could be up to 1000.

You said that ab replaces attenuation.

Then, dose this param use attenuation unit?

When I set my attenuation to 15mm, and added SSS layer on it.

If I set the absorption value to 15, is this work as 15mm ?

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:00 am
by Thomas An.
sandykoufax wrote: When I set my attenuation to 15mm, and added SSS layer on it.

If I set the absorption value to 15, is this work as 15mm ?
They are related in physics. The absorbance can be seen from the "Beer-Lambert" law, but I am not sure off-hand how to convert absorbance into optical loss dB/km (I need to look it up some time)
http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/view ... hp?t=17142

... so I do not know what would be the equivalent of 15mm attenuation ... Once you add the SSS layer then your attenuation setting is gone and you need to determine by trial and error what the equivalent absorption value would need to be.

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:09 am
by sandykoufax
hmm, thanks for quick reply, Thomas.

The only solution is just try and error.

but I don't understand why NL make this param's max value to 1000 instead of 1 (beta's).

:?