Maxwell Render Version 2

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Re: Maxwell Render Version 2

By Calico Jack
-  Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:55 am #304920
Some of you seem to take this very personally. :shock: As an industrial designer/visualizer I need a fast and reliable tool. Sadly those to aren't the attributes of MR.
Perhaps you guys have enough free time to render Fiats, Robots or damn Mickey Mouses but I don't. I have lost few customers because of MR - it's so damn slow and unreliable.
This is just critique.
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Re: Maxwell Render Version 2

By Hervé
-  Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:14 am #304921
well.. I really think Modo is a best choice if you're not looking for absolute realism.. Maxwell is definitely not for your customers... you have just choosen the wrong app... sorry to hear you have lost customers..

Anyway, in my case... food models... photorealism IS important.. and my customers do understand that... there is simply no other way..

so my final advice (and I am not sarcastic) would be to change of customers.. or to go Modo...

and BTW, Maxwell is not slow... this is the normal time it needs to compute a Render "AAA".... so if you're saying "unreliable" because of the speed.. your argument fails...

It would be saying.. a painted oil portrait takes soooo long to do... I don't want to wait... so...? just don't paint.. go rollerblading... hihi.. I mean you get my point right..?

last but not least... try not to be rude with people that work very hard to get good renders... fiats and robots are at least as interesting as your architecture.. no..?

... voila...
hervé
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Re: Maxwell Render Version 2

By NicoR44
-  Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:27 am #304924
Calico Jack wrote:Some of you seem to take this very personally. :shock: As an industrial designer/visualizer I need a fast and reliable tool. Sadly those to aren't the attributes of MR.
Perhaps you guys have enough free time to render Fiats, Robots or damn Mickey Mouses but I don't. I have lost few customers because of MR - it's so damn slow and unreliable.
This is just critique.
hahahahahaha, you kill me :lol: :lol:
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Re: Maxwell Render Version 2

By NicoR44
-  Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:48 am #304927
Hey Calico, I imagine you sitting behind your desk mad as hell with a red head writing your comments thinking a*holes.... lol
Lighten up man, it's not all that bad, be imaginative and don't think that time and money is just flying our way and us just having all the time in the world doing just the things we like... stay cool :wink:
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Re: Maxwell Render Version 2

By Q2
-  Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:01 am #304929
I am a bit surprised of what Calico had to say. I do most of my work for design companies and manufacturers, products like phones, fridges, clocks, tv's and other houshold and industrial items and architectual renderings. And I render all of them using Maxwell because my customers want to see as close as possible what their product is going to look like. Based upon my renderings they decide which product they are going to prototype and eventually produce. Saves them a ton of money and speeds up their evaluation process. So far I never had issues with Maxwell Studio being unreliable, even though it sometimes crashes. What I found was, that modo 401 is crashing VERY often. Not to mention the lack of STL import.

Don't get me wrong. I love to work with Modo 401 and enjoy the features this program offers, but stability in definately not on of it's key features. And Maxwell Studio really gets the job done for me, speedwise and stability wise, not to mention that it can handle real large files ( 800MB -1 GB of Data ) just fine. I do have tight deadlines and never have missed a deadline yet, despite the fact that I am using Maxwell Studio.

It would be very interesting to see what kind of work you do in order to find out why Maxwell is not the right tool for you!

And by the way, I NEVER did a Mickey Mouse!

Cheers

Q!
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Re: Maxwell Render Version 2

By JTB
-  Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:53 am #304932
Jan wrote:
JTB wrote:OK, it is funny that almost everyone mentioned SSS and not the new caustics! Fast and accurate caustics is a great addon for close-ups and for pools...
For pools I suppose that NL should resolve the sun/pool/caustics issue first. The only unbiased render (that I know) wich solve this is thearender:

http://www.thearender.com/forum/viewtop ... f=19&t=325

and

http://www.thearender.com/forum/viewtop ... f=17&t=397

Hope NL can solve this too
Yes, I am a Kerkythea user and a great fan of the developer of Thea (He is Greek too!) and I think it will be a great renderer!
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Re: Maxwell Render Version 2

By KurtS
-  Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:19 pm #304960
Calico Jack wrote:As an industrial designer/visualizer I need a fast and reliable tool. Sadly those to aren't the attributes of MR.
This is just critique.
...I find it a bit strange that you are complaining about this after NextLimit announces a massive speed improvement for the next version... :?:

Calico Jack wrote: I think I won't update my MR
:?:

Re: Maxwell Render Version 2

By corneliu
-  Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:41 am #304971
Maxwell Render is a Light Simulator based on a scientific structure and not on a common "wireframe to solid" model. This is written everywhere.
Most of the people here are clear with this and take this as an axiom before they chose MR.
And many have helped here to develop over many years now.
So the "diagonal" from perfect pictures to "no time" going through "no effort" is an old cliche in this forum.

As far as I know there is an evaluation version of Maxwell Renderer.
There is the possibility to evaluate before production.
Putting a client in a position of having no time in a tight schedule is bad business organization and not a bad render engine.
Calico Jack wrote:Some of you seem to take this very personally. :shock: As an industrial designer/visualizer I need a fast and reliable tool. Sadly those to aren't the attributes of MR.
Perhaps you guys have enough free time to render Fiats, Robots or damn Mickey Mouses but I don't. I have lost few customers because of MR - it's so damn slow and unreliable.
This is just critique.
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Re: Maxwell Render Version 2

By djflod
-  Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:09 am #304985
Putting a client in a position of having no time in a tight schedule is bad business organization and not a bad render engine.
<BAM> :mrgreen: thats exactly what i think about those ageressive comments
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