Page 1 of 1

Maxwell- Render Improvements Suggestion

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:30 am
by Tyrone Marshall
What I would like to see in Maxwell is this:

Let us say I render one scene in three different time frames;

Time Frame A: 10 minutes

Time Frame B: 30 Minutes

Time Frame C: 60 minutes

The scene in this example requires 60 minutes to come to a solution that has no artifacts.

A quality scale for this set of examples assumes 10 is good and 1 is poor.

Time Frame A because it only rendered for 10 minutes rates as a 2 in quality on a scale of 1 to 10..

Time Frame B because it only rendered for 30 minutes rates as a 6 in quality on a scale of 1 to 10.

Time Frame C rates as a 10 because it is the required minutes to arrive at artifact free solution.

What would be nice is if Maxwell could take A and B and perform a cleaning routine to remove noise and provide a even toned (no banding/noise) result that still shows an adjustment in relation to quality when compared to C.

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:41 pm
by oscarMaxwell
Is not exactly the same, but we are developing the following one...

You render a frame, for example 30 minutes, and get a MXI output ( Maxwell image format ). Now you render again this same frame, for example 15 minutes ( in the same or in a different machine, doesn't matter ) and get other MXI output. Then with a MXI tool mixer, you can add this two MXI's and get a new one with less noise.

This is useful to do cooperative rendering among hybrid machines. Suppose you have 10 machines, then you can render the same frame among them. For example you give one hour per machine, and when have finished, you add the 10 mxi into one, that will equal 10 hours of rendering. All these will be managed trough the maxwell net manager.

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:52 am
by Tyrone Marshall
oscarMaxwell wrote:Is not exactly the same, but we are developing the following one...

You render a frame, for example 30 minutes, and get a MXI output ( Maxwell image format ). Now you render again this same frame, for example 15 minutes ( in the same or in a different machine, doesn't matter ) and get other MXI output. Then with a MXI tool mixer, you can add this two MXI's and get a new one with less noise.

This is useful to do cooperative rendering among hybrid machines. Suppose you have 10 machines, then you can render the same frame among them. For example you give one hour per machine, and when have finished, you add the 10 mxi into one, that will equal 10 hours of rendering. All these will be managed trough the maxwell net manager.
This example is very powerful and I have not heard of anything else like this example. It reminds me of "swarm" intelligence (bee hive). Thank you!

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:52 am
by tetsuMaxwell
Yes, great feature!
Thanks oscar and others.

But it won't work when you fix the scene after getting MXI output with for example 30 minutes rendering, right?
If you change the scene a little, do you have to render and get MXI output again? Or is it possible to merge or use the existing MXI output for new renderings?

Thanks.

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:54 pm
by Sören Larsson
oscarMaxwell wrote:Is not exactly the same, but we are developing the following one...

You render a frame, for example 30 minutes, and get a MXI output ( Maxwell image format ). Now you render again this same frame, for example 15 minutes ( in the same or in a different machine, doesn't matter ) and get other MXI output. Then with a MXI tool mixer, you can add this two MXI's and get a new one with less noise.

This is useful to do cooperative rendering among hybrid machines. Suppose you have 10 machines, then you can render the same frame among them. For example you give one hour per machine, and when have finished, you add the 10 mxi into one, that will equal 10 hours of rendering. All these will be managed trough the maxwell net manager.

This sounds like an great feature!

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:19 am
by oscarMaxwell
tetsuMaxwell wrote:Yes, great feature!
Thanks oscar and others.

But it won't work when you fix the scene after getting MXI output with for example 30 minutes rendering, right?
If you change the scene a little, do you have to render and get MXI output again? Or is it possible to merge or use the existing MXI output for new renderings?

Thanks.
Re-rendering won't work properly if you modify the camera, the geometry, your materials or some rendering parameters.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:20 pm
by nifaltaquehace
yes, great!, but, are you talking about the same frame is noy "exactly" if render twice, i mean, the "pixels" or "points" you see in display are not iqual if you render it in two pc ?.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:35 am
by morbid angel
sounds kind of like a distributed rendering to me