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Selling with software
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:14 pm
by w i l l
Is it legal to sell my PC with software installed (I'll probably sell it on Ebay) or do I have to remove all software first?
Thanks.
Re: Selling with software
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:37 pm
by polynurb
personally i have never sold software i bought to anyone later on... asfaik it depends a lot on the license agreement that you agreed upon, by installing the stuff.. it's different from company to company.
Some are very picky and only allow to run it under the initial license holder..
Re: Selling with software
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:33 am
by RonB
You will have to transfer ownership of each program (according to each company's rules) to the person that buys the computer.
Otherwise they will not own the programs nor could they upgrade them.
...Dude...WTF ?
Re: Selling with software
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 11:07 am
by NicoR44
RonB wrote:...Dude...WTF ?

Re: Selling with software
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:24 pm
by Fernando Tella
Well, I think it is illegal to run a software if you don't have it licensed to you. If it is licensed to someone else you are not allowed to use it. I don't think it is illegal to sell your PC with software installed; using it without license is.
...WTF
Re: Selling with software
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:57 pm
by w i l l
Fernando Tella wrote:Well, I think it is illegal to run a software if you don't have it licensed to you. If it is licensed to someone else you are not allowed to use it. I don't think it is illegal to sell your PC with software installed; using it without license is.
...WTF
Exactly, so selling it isn't technically illegal. If they choose to use it then that's their call. If they know the score then it's up to them.
WTF.
Re: Selling with software
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:24 pm
by Bubbaloo
Are you getting more $$$ for the software installed? If so, you are selling with fraudulent intentions... Do what you think is right.

Software developers have hungry kids too.
Re: Selling with software
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:26 pm
by m-Que
Careful, Will. You never know who's gonna buy your PC 'on the other side' on eBay. Selling a PC 'as is' - with all the software installed on it etc. leaves all your private data unsafe, even when deleted. So. it's strongly recommended to wipe or kill your hard disc - this'll also solve the software issue.

Re: Selling with software
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:50 pm
by JCAddy
It's just as easy to format, install windows...and sell it.
Re: Selling with software
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:12 pm
by Tea_Bag
JCAddy wrote:It's just as easy to format, install windows...and sell it.
Exactly - if you were to wipe your hard drive I would recommend this:
http://www.bluestsoft.com/en/products/d ... tercd.html 
Re: Selling with software
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:19 pm
by Maximus3D
Another method i can recommend to erase your hdd is to pick apart a old trashed hdd you got at home, grab the powerful magnets from it and move those over the hdd you wanna erase a few times.

The magnet is the block of metal seated below the coppercoil. I use these as freezerdoor magnets at home, once you stick them to the door you have to fight to pull them off again hehe
/ Max
Re: Selling with software
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:03 am
by iker
JCAddy wrote:It's just as easy to format, install windows...and sell it.
Correction: It's just as easy to format, install "linux"...and sell it.

Re: Selling with software
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:39 pm
by w i l l
iker wrote:JCAddy wrote:It's just as easy to format, install windows...and sell it.
Correction: It's just as easy to format, install "linux"...and sell it.

So then no one would want to buy it.
Re: Selling with software
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:03 pm
by glebe digital
Will, you about to do a Reggie Perrin?
If you're getting off the 3D merry-go-round you might want to investigate kosher ways of transferring your licenses to third parties, some companies do allow for this.
I doubt there's very much 'added value' from a buyers perspective in having a bunch of stuff pre-installed.......most people would want to re-format their drives at some point, whereby any 'added value' would be lost.
And if you're staying in the game, do you really want someone else with a mirror of all your SW -and possible update probs for you- further down the line?
Just a thought.......my two cents..........best of luck amigo.

Re: Selling with software
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:47 pm
by w i l l
No worries. I decided to rip out the components and use it as a home for my Chinchilla.