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Help........PC shuts down
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:09 pm
by Onslaught
i have this pc for 4 years now, been doing my renderings with it. lately when i start my maxwell render it turns off the machine. has anyone experienced this?
quad core
32bit xp pro
4 gig ram
i've tried large and small scenes and all wound up the same.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:11 pm
by AndreD
have you ever cleaned the inside??

(sounds like a heat problem)
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:12 pm
by Onslaught
yes......

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:16 pm
by AndreD
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:26 pm
by Onslaught
Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type ITE IT8718F (ISA 290h)
GPU Sensor Type Diode (NV-Diode)
Motherboard Name Gigabyte EP31 / EP35 / G33 / P31 / P35 Series
Chassis Intrusion Detected Yes
Temperatures:
Motherboard 39 °C (102 °F)
CPU 62 °C (144 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 74 °C (165 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 62 °C (144 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 72 °C (162 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 67 °C (153 °F)
GPU Diode 61 °C (142 °F)
WDC WD2500JS-00NCB1 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Cooling Fans:
CPU 2220 RPM
Power Supply 1870 RPM
Fan #4 2083 RPM
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:59 pm
by -Adrian
Are these numbers under load or idle?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:06 am
by Onslaught
i do not know. i think (and i am not sure) that it's idle 'coz all i'm doing is surfing the web

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:40 am
by -Adrian
Yes, that would be idle. Those temps are fairly high. I would say around 75°C
under load is within reason. A better airflow in your tower might just solve it.
Chassis Intrusion Detected: Yes

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:27 am
by Onslaught
Thanks Adrian..........
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:03 pm
by Frances
You might want to consider replacing your cpu heatsink/fan or at least giving them a good dusting and applying new thermal paste.
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:59 pm
by Leonardo
I have used a leaf-blower in the past with a lot of success... but I'm not an expert! do it at your own risk

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:46 pm
by Thomas An.
62C idle is absurd; even though it's within the 65C manufacturer limit. You shouldn't be that close to the limit.
A CPU with a good cooling solution (and properly ventilated case) should not go over 45C at LOAD. (e.g. currently I get 28C idle and 36C at load).
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:07 pm
by Onslaught
Thanks guys for all your suggestions. At least I know what to do now.

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:07 am
by polynurb
Thomas An. wrote:e.g. currently I get 28C idle and 36C at load.
thomas are you rendering on a VIA eden or so?
36°c at load is odd, imo. I would guess that it is a reading from the mainboard sensor located in the cpu soket, and not the actual die temp measured with something like
coretemp
imho 45° idle is ok when max is not above ~63° on permanent load. (for a core2 quad family type processor)
@Onslaught
say what quadcore did you get a 4 years ago?
if it is intel check the stupid mountig mechanism of the (boxed) cooler, it has these little plastic grips instead of screws, and it happens that one slips back out if not secured well, and messes up the contact to the cpu surface....
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:13 am
by Thomas An.
polynurb wrote:36°c at load is odd, imo. I would guess that it is a reading from the mainboard sensor located in the cpu soket, and not the actual die temp measured with something like
coretemp
It is definitely the CPU reading. The mainboard sensor has a different reading. I know this system very well. It used to give me 55C at load, but after sitting down and redesigning the air flow in the case and using a proper heatsink on the CPU, it has been brought down quite a bit and never goes beyond 36 (well in the summer when ambient temp goes up to 80F in the room then the CPU stabilizes at 42C while rendering for long hours).
So, yes 36C is quite real !! (at least in the winter

) ... and it is all air cooled.