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Fiac Event...
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:35 am
by Hervé
Like each year in Paris, here is the Fiac (International Contemporary art exhibition)
This year, the french police has his entry too..
read here
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20081028/t ... c2b55.html
QUESTION OF THE DAY...
Can art be anything..? are they any barriers an artist should not cross..
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:39 am
by Hervé
BTW, just the fact that the police showed up at the fair makes now this artist in front page... who would have know this guy otherwise....?
Is the entire system (economy, art.. I mean all..) totally perverted...
Are we living in a non-sense wold.. ?
Personaly, I'm done taking the world seriously from 20 years ago..
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:19 pm
by Stinkie7000
Hervé wrote:BTW, just the fact that the police showed up at the fair makes now this artist in front page... who would have know this guy otherwise....?
Quite a lot of people, actually. Research is not a four-letter word.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:32 pm
by Bubbaloo
Negative publicity is still publicity, which can be turned into $$$. As long as there are people talking about this "art", then the objective has been accomplished.
Me, if I was there and saw that shit, I would probably turn around and leave. "Art" is tasteless I guess.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:50 pm
by Stinkie7000
I don't like Kulik's work much either, but I acknowledge his right to make this kind of stuff. Hey, if Britney's allowed to churn out tasteless crap, so is our boy Oleg!
Come to think of it, he's not even good at being tasteless - the Chapmans do 'tasteless' much better. They got the sense of humour Kulik sorely lacks.
Oh well.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:01 pm
by Bubbaloo
Oleg Kulik is most renowned for his performances as a dog, including Mad Dog, Reservoir Dog and I Bite America
What a tard...
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:11 pm
by Stinkie7000
Bubbaloo wrote:Oleg Kulik is most renowned for his performances as a dog, including Mad Dog, Reservoir Dog and I Bite America
What a tard...
I'm fairly certain the last title should be "I Bite America And America Bites Me". It kinda rung a bell. Must be a Beuys reference.
Whenever people 'doubt' the artistic merit of a certain artist, and go "pah! crap!", I go: sure, but he doesn't work in an office for an average pay.
That works.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:33 pm
by Bubbaloo
I'm fairly certain the last title should be "I Bite America And America Bites Me".
Oh, much better...
I would much prefer to work in an office for average pay and keep my dignity and personal integrity, but that's just me...
I think the difference is I have a skill that most people don't have, as do most of the people on this forum. This guy, what is his skill? Can he do things that others can't? No. Even my 2 year old daughter is pretty good at crawling around on the floor pretending to be a dog, I think most people could do that, no skill involved, just an imagination. But most people also have the common sense not to do it in public and call it art.
Don't get me wrong, I would not tell him he can't do it. Everyone should have the right to make an ass of themselves and even try to profit from it. I'm just saying, anyone with a bit of taste would probably not give him a second thought, except maybe a psychiatrist.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:36 pm
by Hervé
nothing new.. that was alreay the motto of Malcolm Mc Laren in 1977.. (ex Sex Pistols manager)
"good or bad.. as long as you are in the media, that's all that count.."
good point ..
.. although that does not make him an artist.. more like Paris Hilton in fact.. I mean if $$$ is the goal.. otherwise.. pointless..
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:43 pm
by Bubbaloo
Nice topic, Herve.
You got me mad already this morning.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:46 pm
by Hervé
nahhh Brian.... just a New-York conversation... gossip all the time..
(Lou Reed)
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:48 pm
by Stinkie7000
Bubbaloo wrote:This guy, what is his skill? Can he do things that others can't? No. Even my 2 year old daughter is pretty good at crawling around on the floor pretending to be a dog (...)
I'm not trying to defend Kulik (if I had the money to buy art, I wouldn't buy his - I'd buy a nice Manfred Pernice sculpture, or a Koen van den Broek painting ), but your comparison isn't completely correct. I'm sure your daughter can crawl likes the best, but I'm fairly certain she doesn't have what it takes to get rich off of it. Again, not defending Kulik. Merely pointing out a flaw in your comparison.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:05 pm
by Bubbaloo
"stop watching this topic"
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:06 pm
by Hervé
Stinkie7000 wrote:Bubbaloo wrote:This guy, what is his skill? Can he do things that others can't? No. Even my 2 year old daughter is pretty good at crawling around on the floor pretending to be a dog (...)
I'm not trying to defend Kulik (if I had the money to buy art, I wouldn't buy his - I'd buy a nice Manfred Pernice sculpture, or a Koen van den Broek painting ), but your comparison isn't completely correct. I'm sure your daughter can crawl likes the best, but I'm fairly certain she doesn't have what it takes to get rich off of it. Again, not defending Kulik. Merely pointing out a flaw in your comparison.
then quote Wahrol... making money is the most beautiful form of art...