Page 1 of 1

video compression questions...

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:48 pm
by lsega77
Anybody know the most efficient way to either stream or otherwise 'play' video online?

I'd like to post ML animations on my new web design (when I finally finish it) but all my anims a pretty freaking huge (even at low res).

It'd be nice to play videos to similar quality as the ML that are played at the homepage of m~r

Luis

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:12 pm
by big K
hello,

try flash video. you need to have either studio or flash professional to do the coding, i think. (the encoder is included in those packages - mabe you get it elsewhere)

hope it helps
michael

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:30 pm
by acquiesse
Hi,

I'm using premier pro 1.5, using:

File>Export>Adobe Media Encoder

Gives lots of options for tiny files :)

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:58 pm
by lsega77
Thanks for the info guys!


@Big K. I thought flash just provided an interface to stream the video? Does flash create a new video format?

@acquiesse. I've heard premier is pretty good but is there a steep learning curve?

Luis

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:10 pm
by -Adrian
Afaik flash ships with a bunch of video codecs (Sorenson), so you should be set using just that.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:30 pm
by big K
yep they have a video format: *.flv

as i said if you have pro flash you get the vidoencoder installed.
you have then even the option to encode it in premiere pro for example with the media encoder (when installed there is a new option for flash video)

the video is more or less only playable with the flashplayer.(dunno of other players) but streaming is very simple then.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:31 pm
by desclarke
Luis, alternatively you could use Quicktime Pro (around €30) to export the movie files using the H.264 decoder with hinted internet streaming for fast start checked. Playing around with the frame rate/quality sliders can make a huge difference..

Des

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:30 am
by lsega77
thanks to all! :D

hopefully I'll be done with my new site soon. It'd be great to integrate my videos.

@desClarke: That's interesting. I always pegged quicktime as nothing more than a player... shows how little i know about video. thanks.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:58 pm
by desclarke
Yes, the free download of quicktime is basically the full version with export functions and tons of other stuff "hidden" until the registration code (which you can buy online) is put in. Then all functions are accessible including some filters as well as all the export formats including about 29 decoders with settings for each...

Des

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:13 pm
by big K
encoders :wink:

no really, quicktime is a good choice as well.
there is also quicktime alternative - a free software that is actually 99% like quicktime. it has also all the codecs in there. (it has an included quicktime pro license, so all the quicktime pro features - not sure about all beeing totally legal) search for it under google. i am sure you will also find an answer if you are allowed to use it or not

hope it helps
michael

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:32 pm
by desclarke
Yes Mick, should have said "codec" (video compressor).... :oops:

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:44 pm
by big K
no worries :D

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:56 pm
by Micha
big K wrote:encoders :wink:

no really, quicktime is a good choice as well.
there is also quicktime alternative - a free software that is actually 99% like quicktime. it has also all the codecs in there. (it has an included quicktime pro license, so all the quicktime pro features - not sure about all beeing totally legal) search for it under google. i am sure you will also find an answer if you are allowed to use it or not

hope it helps
michael
Did you mean this free tool is for mov creation too? Or a player only?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:55 pm
by KRZ
i would recommend youtube.com . or google video..they have a uploader for biggerfiles. the benefit is that you dont have to pay for the huge bandwidth. its also very convenient to integrate the youtube video into your website. i dont know if there are legal problems with uploaded content...so better read into their terms first if you might consider to go that route.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:59 pm
by acquiesse
acquiesse. I've heard premier is pretty good but is there a steep learning curve?
Hi,

I'm an architecture student, so I don't need to push it too hard, I just do basic fly-throughs that kind of thing. As with all the Adobe products I have used, the layout is clean and a beginner can use it with some basic tutorials under their belt, I can't comment on how it might be for an expert! :D