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Bye Bye and good luck NL

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:20 pm
by Maya69
Just a little bye bye

i choose to work with another render

i follow a dev of nl and i hope to resolve your many probleme

Beau philppe

Best regard

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:24 pm
by Leonardo
Good bye... I hope you find what you're looking for! :D

btw... shouldn't this be in the off-topic? :?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:27 pm
by Maximus3D
Good bye, and eventually you will get fried at the other camp..

/ Max

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:30 pm
by Leonardo
Maximus3D wrote:Good bye, and eventually you will get fried at the other camp..

/ Max
:lol:

Everything is fun and games until somebody gets fried :shock:

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:42 pm
by Maxer
Sorry to see you go Maya69 but I completely understand your frustration with NL though. I for one don't understand what these people are doing; I've been contacted personally by several of their top people asking what they can do to make my relationship with them better. This contact was made by them and after I responded I never heard a thing from them, that was several weeks ago. I'm probably one of the top 5 license holders of theirs but despite that I'm still treated like dirt, so I completely understand what's going on and I don't blame you a bit.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:16 pm
by ludi
bye maya, stay tuned

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:44 pm
by JCAddy
boohoo

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:00 pm
by thxraph
bye Maya, see you on the other board ^^

Raph

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:59 pm
by acquiesse
:(

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:12 pm
by Calico Jack
I tried Vray a few days ago and I start to think that why I´m wasting my time with this engine.
Vray has its own weaknessess but it´s way more faster! It takes 20 hours to make one good
quality image with MR but Vray finish those same scenes in 15 minutes and I made those
images with my home pc(pentium 4) :shock:

I´m displeased :(

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:17 pm
by Peter_K
I´ve also given up any hope to use Maxwell as my prefered render. In the (almost) two years, I have owned maxwell, I have never been able to output any satisfactory results, primarly highres renders and animations from Lightwave and XSI. The fact that network rendering still hasn't been fixed is a utterly joke.

I still check this forum now and then, to see what people comes up with in the gallery. I was really impressed once in a time with the Alpha/Beta renders, and even though maxwell now is capable of more advanced materials, I don't feel the same photorealism in the pictures as I once did. I can´t put my finger on it, but the alpha/beta had a certain look, now they don´t differ much from what Vray etc is capable of. You don't have to flame me if you feel othervise. This is just what I feel, and my eyes are probably different from yours...

I hope that maybe in a year or two everything is another matter, and network rendering actually works. Then and then only will I pickup maxwell again, but until then I wont spend another minute with troubleshooting.

Goodbye Philppe! I hope to see you back someday, as I hope to see myself back on this board one day aswell.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:19 pm
by deadalvs
Calico Jack wrote:I tried Vray a few days ago and I start to think that why I´m wasting my time with this engine.
Vray has its own weaknessess but it´s way more faster! It takes 20 hours to make one good
quality image with MR but Vray finish those same scenes in 15 minutes and I made those
images with my home pc(pentium 4) :shock:

I´m displeased :(
hmm, could You post an example of this, please ?

of the same scene of course...

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:24 pm
by Calico Jack
For example this image - I won´t even try to make that same image with MR :D
http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kannuue7.jpg

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:08 pm
by deadalvs
well, give us render times for that and the resolution, so we have a clue...

but:
besides mapping problems of the model, sorry to say, but it looks pretty flat...

i always see this kind of flat-charcoal-waxy finish on all v-ray renderings which holds me off it ... look at any picture of the v-ray galleries and they have this soap-feeling... :roll:

* * *

of course, if an image like this renders in five minutes instead of four hours this is great, but still it's about to choosing the preferred renderer.

i REALLY don't understand why people BLAME NL for not anymore using their software. everyone who bought a license of maxwell has known about rendering times before it was bought and thus noone can be blamed. and it is a totally different story that NL's development is called slow. i've seen worse. MUCH worse ! (namely art vps)

what is it about to announce loudly not to use the software any more? do You guys think this will change something if two of three people hop off the ship that is just starting to sail ?

come on - maxwell is still young and a kind of pioneer project, yes, with weaknesses. but fact is also that these algorithms of physically correct light transport exist already since 20 years and it's the first time that computers are fast enough to use them reasonably. Your renderings are too slow? for me that's a problem of the hardware firstly, not software.

and as said, everyone has known in advance that maxwell renders «slow».

«and that's how the cookie crumbles !» (from bruce almighty)

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:21 pm
by glebe digital
deadalvs, I agree with everything you just said there. :)