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Microsoft is not stealing ideas frjm Apple! (New York Times)

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:50 pm
by Boris Ulzibat

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:56 pm
by NicoR44
LOL hehehe,

But I still love windows :wink: :oops:

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:08 pm
by Boris Ulzibat
NicoR44 wrote:LOL hehehe,

But I still love windows :wink: :oops:
And i love Mac, but we both love Maxwell!!!! :wink: :wink: :D

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:40 pm
by daros
disgusting.
How it's possible that with the money and resources they have, the tey produce something like Vista.
MS, one of the biggest corporations worldwide, 100.000.000.000 of $, 1000.000 or more employees = Vista?
Come one. I mean... windows 95, windows 98, XP, Vista?some of the most stupid, wrong, ugly designed, useless, vaste of time, dangerous......
i mean the history is full of bad copies...but this one...
How is that possible.... may they want to reduce us to something like Vista to have more revenue en the next years.
Imagine a future with MS brains :)

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:57 pm
by Mihai
Is it really that bad? If you judge it mostly on the new looks it won't seem like much. But just the new vectorized interface elements can prove to be quite useful. If the gpu is just sitting there most of the time doing nothing, why not take advantage of it. Even the skeptics aren't doubting it's also more secure than XP or Win2K. Hopefully it will also offer improved performance on multicore systems.

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:24 pm
by Boris Ulzibat
Mihai wrote:Is it really that bad? If you judge it mostly on the new looks it won't seem like much. But just the new vectorized interface elements can prove to be quite useful. If the gpu is just sitting there most of the time doing nothing, why not take advantage of it. Even the skeptics aren't doubting it's also more secure than XP or Win2K. Hopefully it will also offer improved performance on multicore systems.
Quote:
"Microsoft always had many great ideas! They just have absolutely no taste."
I am waiting to see Vista, maybe I'll make it a second OS on my Mac.
Well... If the software development will continue like this, i guess i will have to install Vista. So i really am waiting for it to bee good :)

About vector interface - it is already introduced in Symbian OS 9.
And it ROCKS!

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:25 pm
by aitraaz
I mean, is it really surprising? Microsoft has never been an ideas company. And apple's never really gone beyond that good ol' I'm a San Francisco yuppie genius bit, throughout alot of the innovative things they've done...

Those two mega-corporations with all the money and power function like pyramids, and tip of the pyramid is what gives character to the whole colossal enterprise, and we know pretty well what kinds of people those tips are.

Gates was never an inventor, he was always a hyper-capitalist with a nasty skill for cornering world markets....

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:53 pm
by daros
Mihai wrote:But just the new vectorized interface elements can prove to be quite useful.
Come on mihai, thoose vectorized interfaces are not NEW!!!. They are already implemented in OSX, Linux, FreeBSD and many others....
And 12 years ago every interface was a vectorized interface!!!
MS repeated so many times that this vectorized interfaces are something new that today people belive that!!!

"people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it" Goebbles.

You need only the power to repeat the lie frequently enough...And MS has this power.

I hope to find the way to avoid installing Vista in my office.

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:20 pm
by Mihai
I didn't mean to say they invented it, I don't think they've said it either, but it is something new to Vista. DX10 looks very interesting and powerful also. I can just imagine what kind of interfaces you could design using the full power of DX10 and a graphics card that just idles most of the time.

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:29 pm
by NicoR44
Boris Ulzibat wrote:
NicoR44 wrote:LOL hehehe,

But I still love windows :wink: :oops:
And i love Mac, but we both love Maxwell!!!! :wink: :wink: :D
indeed! :D :wink:

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:34 pm
by numerobis
yes, dx10 looks great... but this could be a simple update for win xp... no need to sell a new os for this. :roll:

a few weeks ago there was a rumour that it will be released for xp too (as dx9.0L) but now it should not. maybe M$ has realised that no one will buy the great new os if it will be available for free?!? dx10... is this all?
sure, vista looks nice - but all this new digital rights stuff and need for a supercomputer just to run the os is inacceptable (for me).

i will stay as long as possible with xp (xp64 soon) and hope for a implementation of dx10 in xp - if not m$ will do it, i'm sure, there are already many talented programmers out there waiting to make a nice dx10 for xp :lol: ...and remove the drm from vista :mrgreen:

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:38 pm
by Thomas An.
numerobis wrote: but all this new digital rights stuff ....
The thing is, OSx is also chuck full of digital rights stuff ... the only alternative is Linux ... but even there Novel is selling out to MS and the rest of Linux does not seem to catch up ...

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:48 pm
by b-kandor
http://www.cryptonomicon.com/command.zip for windows
http://www.cryptonomicon.com/command.txt.sit for mac

(mac version is .sit and win version is .zip)

'nuff said! :)

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:38 am
by NicoR44
b-kandor wrote:http://www.cryptonomicon.com/command.zip for windows
http://www.cryptonomicon.com/command.txt.sit for mac

(mac version is .sit and win version is .zip)

'nuff said! :)
My God, don't you mean to much said? :shock: :shock: woow

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:01 am
by Thomas An.
b-kandor wrote:...

'nuff said! :)...
Was that the whole book ? :)