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maxwell vs. MentalRay...

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:33 pm
by deadalvs
the render settings windows... :)

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hehe... :)

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deadalvs

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:49 pm
by daros
i'm happy to not have spend a single day of my life with this kind of rendering engines :)

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:51 pm
by insomnia3d
What is the point of having so many controls if most of the users will only know how to really use a few.
'Less is More' _Mies Van der Rohe

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:55 pm
by deadalvs
oh trust me... that's the way it feels also when You work with MR !

i did this rendering here with MR:
http://www.jumpgates.com/matthias/portf ... mpfang.jpg

after watching the gnomon dvd which covers the whole range of MR global illumination it took me ONE WHOLE DAY to tweak the damn settings for this BUTT-UGLY interior rendering.
one whole day vs. the rendering time of a few hours... that's insane and not usable for arch-viz. maybe for an animation of for film where You can render out or cache 3'000 frames, but not for one cheesy pic !

*argggrmmblmpf*

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deadalvs

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:09 am
by Frances
I could never balance AA and render times with mr. And settings are dependent on scene size. So, you can tweak and tweak for a test scene or do a tutorial that gives good results. But when you try it for a real scene, it doesn't look good at all. Kind of like tuning a harp. Someone opens a window, and you're back to square one.

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:03 am
by Mihai
And still, you added the complete camera settings for Maxwell, so you can further increase the list of settings for MR if you add all the camera params :)

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:11 am
by sandykoufax
and mr Sky and mr Sun too. :wink:

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:58 am
by insomnia3d
Plus the full control of the material that is not based on max shaders and has no limit.

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:01 pm
by Frances
sandykoufax wrote:and mr Sky and mr Sun too. :wink:
:lol: I read that as "Mr. Sky and Mr. Sun." :lol:

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:07 pm
by deadalvs
Frances wrote:... Kind of like tuning a harp. Someone opens a window, and you're back to square one.
i love this comparison ! so cuuuute !

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deadalvs

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:53 pm
by Frances
deadalvs wrote:
Frances wrote:... Kind of like tuning a harp. Someone opens a window, and you're back to square one.
i love this comparison ! so cuuuute !

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deadalvs
I was thinking of "The Young Lutheran's Guide To The Orchestra," by humorist Garrison Keillor. Here is a portion of it:
There are two places in the orchestra for a Lutheran and one is the percussion section. It's the most Christian
instrument there is. Percussionists are endlessly patient because they hardly ever get to play. Pages and pages of
music go by when the violins are sawing away and the winds are tooting and the brass are blasting, and the
percussionist sits there and counts the bars like a hunter in the blind waiting for a grouse to appear. A
percussionist may have to wait for twenty minutes just to play a few beats, but those beats have to be exact, and
they have to be passionate, climactic. All that the Epistles of Paul say a Christian should be -- faithful, waiting,
trusting, filled with fervor -- are the qualities of the good percussionist.

The other Lutheran instrument, of course, is the harp. It's a good instrument for any Christian because it keeps you humble
and keeps you at home. You can't run around with a harp. Having one is like living with an elderly parent in
very poor health: it's hard to get them in and out of cars, and it's hard to keep them happy. It takes fourteen hours
to tune a harp, which remains in tune for about twenty minutes, or until somebody opens the door. It's an
instrument for a saint. If a harpist could find a good percussionist, they wouldn't need anybody else. They could
settle down and make perfectly good music, just the two of them.

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:21 pm
by deadalvs
that was just great !

precisely observed!

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deadalvs

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:23 pm
by deadalvs
and concerning the title: MENTAL Ray...

the name says it all... :P


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deadalvs

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:32 pm
by sandykoufax
Frances wrote:
sandykoufax wrote:and mr Sky and mr Sun too. :wink:
:lol: I read that as "Mr. Sky and Mr. Sun." :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:33 am
by misterasset
Frances wrote:
sandykoufax wrote:and mr Sky and mr Sun too. :wink:
:lol: I read that as "Mr. Sky and Mr. Sun." :lol:
Haha, I did too.