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I wonder what is the likelihood that next limit will utilize open cl for rendering ? The new mac pro seems to only have one CPU so the traditional brute force route is not suitable. Personally i like the design and early reports say it's a screamer.

+1.... I am getting two of those Mac's. I just hope they will fly!!!!

ordered the 12 core beast! will arrive here in january, will post results asap....

Has anyone read any heavy duty reviews of the machine? The reviews I've found are from mainstream blogs, with a lot of fluff.

Please Q2, do that please... It would be great to have a benchmark from the new Mac Pro!

joaomourao wrote:Please Q2, do that please... It would be great to have a benchmark from the new Mac Pro!

It's a single 12 core Xeon E5-2697 v2 @2,7GHz.

There is already a single E5-2697 v2 in the Benchwell V2 list:

163 | Intel R Xeon R CPU E5-2697 v2 2.70GHz | 6m06s | 762.05 | 24 | 32 GB | 2.7.20.0 | Win64

( http://www.maxwellrender.com/benchwellV2 )

So i think it should be in this range: 6m05s; BM760

slightly faster than a dual Xeon hexacore X5690 3.47GHz which has 6m08s; 757.92

So... 6217,64€ excl. VAT for a system that is ~25% faster than an overclocked 3930K for maybe 1400€... WOW! (but yes, with two graphics cards...)
(with 32GB, 256GB SSD and two AMD D500 cards - which seems to be a relabeled, almost two years old, slightly lower clocked Radeon HD 7870 with 3GB VRAM)

but the manufacturing video is pretty impressive...

But where can I buy a PC with that configuration which is as reliable? I checked HP, Dell and BoXX and came up with even higher prices for a similar configuration.... And I am not sure I want an oveclocked computer running 24/7. How reliable is that?

Fasten your seatbelt, here we go on journey... Mac vs PC
Seriously, the Mac Pro is expensive for sure, 4000€ in Portugal...
A PC would cost half that in specs! But some people like paying for design (like some of our clients) and others like its high quality for hardware and software (OS) and I could write a few lines more about this. What I love about it, is what most hate, a completely closed system, a final product that will last and that I can carry with me! Have you seen the size of it!!?!?
6 minutes is great but expensive...
Cheers!

Q2 wrote:But where can I buy a PC with that configuration which is as reliable? I checked HP, Dell and BoXX and came up with even higher prices for a similar configuration.... And I am not sure I want an oveclocked computer running 24/7. How reliable is that?

Yes, HP, Dell and Boxx are maybe not much cheaper and especially Boxx has really funny prices... And Dell and HP still have no builds based on the new Xeon E5 V2. And only very limited configuration options (i think at least in this part they have managed to imitate apple)
I think, if you could build it yourself you could end somewhere around 3800€, with one Xeon E5 V2 12-core 2,7GHz, 32GB, 256GB SSD and TWO AMD FirePro W7000 (if you want a FirePro - and if you need two of them)
If you really want a PC instead of a Mac and you don't want/can build it yourself, you could look for a (local) pc shop that sells custom build systems and provides also support.
Maybe something like this: http://www.mifcom.de/17/workstation.html (only as example - i don't know them, this was only a google result for shops in Munich that provide configurable workstations and service plans)

And concerning overclocking an reliability... i have overclocked all of my machines since maybe 15 years now and currently i'm running 10 overclocked systems. I don't see any problems here - if it is done right and in a reasonable range.

Thanks for the infos numerous, I am not really a "built your own guy" anymore, had too much problems choosing parts that did not quite fit together so now I just BUY what I need and Apple gave me what I was looking for. A solid system which was reliable and had a great OS. I ordererd the 12 core Mac Pro and can't wait to see the speed on that thing....

But it sure is tempting to build a super fast workstation from scratch.....

Cheers
Carsten

hatts wrote:Has anyone read any heavy duty reviews of the machine? The reviews I've found are from mainstream blogs, with a lot of fluff.

Anand is working on one. Theirs are usually the most thorough reviews.

chedda wrote:I wonder what is the likelihood that next limit will utilize open cl for rendering ?

Low.

I am ordering one for use with Mac-only software such as Smoke, but this new design is the final nail in the coffin as far as the Maxwell-heavy users in my studio. We are moving the remaining Mac holdouts to dual CPU PC's.

I have some hope, next limit have already made some moves to implement open cl in v3 already. Also on a side note i understand the new mac pro has an upgradeable cpu. I guess buying a base model and upgrading later when prices drop is a good move.

http://www.tonymacx86.com/mac-pro-mods/ ... plica.html

still waiting for mine.....