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... the moderator of the forum and how is writing the Rhino plugin? Tom you have locked my previous post and you has forget to answer of the question. A mistake?

PS I: He, I have a locked post too. I was born in the GDR and is't funny to be censored again. I have forget this feeling.
Thank you Tom for not deleting my previous post, it's a little freedom of speech. I would recommend to create a speakers corner forum section for critical voices.

PS II: Do we ever get an answer for the question: will it be possible to disable vignetting in Maxwell? It's an old simple question and I can not remember to get answer? What is the problem to answer?

A few example links of the old question.

http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2715

http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2713

http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2639

http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4223

http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6439

http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/view ... hp?t=10271

http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/view ... hp?t=10225

Micha,

You deserve much more respectful treatment than this. It is a sad day when someone so kind and generous with his knowlege as you are, is treated like an enemy.

Ginosso, I was speaking of the moderator's actions.

Respectful requests go ignored, but a breach of the forum rules gets immediate notice.

Doesn't anyone else around here see something wrong with this picture? Is everyone here a potential enemy? Looks that way to me. Tom gave me the hairy eyeball because I'd messed up a post where I quoted him, and intended my comment to agree with him. It was about drinking water for pete's sake. He read something inappropriate and insulting into it.

"if you did not have vray i do not think that you speaks so bad..."

Some background from me: a long time I was at home with my little daughter - babyyears and have used my spare time to play with CG for my wife, she has study design. I have buy Maxwell from my small budget.Last summer I have started to create a portfolio with the promise of NL - at the October, no November, no December the final is ready. And than - crash - nothing to use to start a professional work. Nothing and no useful infos. I'm frustrated, yes. Vr*y is my only chance to do my job with Rhino now.

I think, the best would be if a bigger company would buy NL and finish Maxwell in professional way. Maxwell could be a realy nice tool, but without user contact, with lies and unprofessional support it is not possible to use it for me.

Don't forget, I never have sayed: give me back my money. I say, give some infos, give me a plugin. NL could give the plugin development to a sub company or a freelance programmer.

I afraid, without a new plugin and a own rhinoll developer, the rhino plugin will be an endless story. Befor Pablo was gone, he was writing on 4 plugins at the same time. I was shocked as I have understand the system of NL. And the plugin development was very sloooow.
Now, at the Vray plugin I see, how much work it is to get a plugin good working. Daily I write in the Vray for Rhino forum and get answers and approx every two weeks an update.

"constructive critics" - it very difficult here. Here an example of an endless bug report of me or should I say a "fight". If you like, read self:
http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7399

Interesting for me: I think Tom would not lock a post about Flamingo (sorry) or the good old BMRT. Also I have seen much posts from Jotero about his WinOsi renderer. For me it is a sign, that my current workflow seems to be a good choice. Also the silence from NL, no answers, no infos is sign for me.

Hope: I hope, Znouza find some time to make his Maxwell Beta plugin ready to use. I would pay some money on freeware basis for it. Maybe, if it works fine, he get the chance to adapt it for the new Maxwell releases.

Regards Micha

MarkM ask me in the locked post:

Micha was that 360° made directly out of rhino?

Yes - a spherical camera - very simple. I hope Rhinoll will it support soon too. If it is ready to use at Maxwell I will post a small tutorial how to get a VR movie per free tool panocube.

ginosso wrote:.... i'm not a rich man an put my very counted money in alpha version .. but i know that take an alpha or beta version it' s a lottery... you can win but also can lose...
but..for the fact that i put my money in that i prefer support and make costructive critics...

I completely agree

I'm back to using the beta ......and I know we're never going to revisit the beta engine in terms of 'finishing' or 'repair'. I'd do backflips if I could just get materials to 'stick'. I'd happily pay Znouza for a revised plug-in designed for the beta ......I can live with most of it's other setbacks.

Frances, .....didn't you mention a while ago about using layers somehow was a workaround with materials in the beta ? ......i remember seeing something about that. .....dunno.

Anyway, ....I basically agree with Micha. I also understand that the plug-ins won't be dealt with until rc XX.xx or V1 is delivered. ...but maybe just a nice official mention would smooth us over a bit. Mike has mentioned something to that order ........I think they either put Mike on the payroll or just come out from behind the curtain ........if only for a little while.


Just trying to straddle the fence here ........

Hi all,

I can't speak to the communication issue, but as far as the overall project goes, it just seems that the Maxwell developers have adopted a strategy of using Studio as a home base for working out all of the flaws and capabilities in the renderer. Once these are ironed out, it should again become realistic (not to mention...easier) to resume more active development of the various plug-ins. From where I sit, this seems a far smarter way to come at it...when you want to make one change in the engine, you don't have to update 14 different plug-ins to make sure that they all know how to use it correctly...you just open Studio and hit 'Render'.

Not that it helps much, but that's how it seems to me.

~JD

Frances wrote: It is a sad day when someone so kind and generous with his knowlege as you are, is treated like an enemy.

yes, it is.

Frances wrote: Doesn't anyone else around here see something wrong with this picture?

yes, Micha has been one of the most helpful and active member of this community for quite a long time and he sure deserves a couple of answers. in a way it really makes me feel uneasy thinking of all the people that once were here everyday testing and giving their contribution and now are deserting the forums.

oh well, I know, it doesn't have anything to do with the thread subject or the rhino plugin.

And don't forget that they cannot update the SDK until all necessary things are fixed and added in the core such a new features and old things which don't work well yet. Once all that's done the SDK's updated and then the plugins should get a big boosted update. It's not too difficult to understand..

/ Max

We will see.
In the past the rhinoll situation was not good. Pablo was writing to much plugins at the same time and than he was leaving without a comment.
I suppose so that Mike has give us an info, that we should not get - we are leaderless. Maybe nobody has tell him that it is a secret.
Znouza has try to get a little support from NL for his beta plugin. Nothing.
I have heard to many good news from NL without a realization, so I dosn't belive that it is true, that some body is writing on the plugin now.
And we get not a little additional info here.

We will see. I'm not depending from Maxwell anymore.

Bill, see you on Vray again. There are some more user from here as you think.
And if you are not happy, the agreement says, you get your money back.

Good, I stop here. Nothing is changed, but we will see.

Regards Micha

hi all,

ok, I'll try to complete plug for beta version. Will put new info there and at http://rhino.plugin.maxwellrender.cz

and around Rhino. I'm planning to write some another plugins. One of them is plugin for architects or someone else, who d'like to use object library (with additional infos, summaries of used objects etc). Any comments will be appreciated.

Maximus3D wrote:And don't forget that they cannot update the SDK until all necessary things are fixed and added in the core such a new features and old things which don't work well yet. Once all that's done the SDK's updated and then the plugins should get a big boosted update. It's not too difficult to understand..

It might be not to difficult to understand, but it's plainly wrong.

Easy proof: Daros obviously has got a working SDK, without it a tool like
MXL exporter http://www.arkadin.biz/matadorlight/ is hard to write.

Work on the SDK is as continuous as the work on the core itself.
You add new things, sometimes you have to remove or alter a thing, but
basically you must have a working SDK all the time.
I hope NL finally releases a new SDK version soon, because the plugins
are not in good shape, and it needs external efforts to get there.

Kabe

I never used MLight .........now that I've reverted back to beta, ....I'm wondering if/how Daros ever had a working version of MLight for the beta ? ......or will the current version work with 1.2.2a too ?

And true is, that the SDK for the Beta was ready. The problem is, that NL dosn't has spend energy, time and money for the plugin in the last half year.